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johnnyfive
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: ChubbSubb]
#958001 - 10/13/02 08:12 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya true i wanted to go off in the god is internal and not external thing, but too much to type, and i didn't want to stray the topic.
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zeronio
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: Phluck]
#959114 - 10/14/02 04:45 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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The idea that anarchy=chaos was launched by those who wanted to discredit anarchist movement. We all know that a system without rules cannot work. Check this site: www.anarchy.org - it contains many articles about anarchy.
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Phluck
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: zeronio]
#959405 - 10/14/02 10:13 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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"The idea that anarchy=chaos was launched by those who wanted to discredit anarchist movement."
Christ, no it wasn't! That was the ORIGINAL DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
The idea that anarchy=chaos has been around way longer than the so-called "anarchist movement".
Look it up in a fucking dictionary.
Jesus.
Sure, the "anarchist movements" follow a political doctrine that does not fit this definition, but that doesn't mean that anarchy doesn't fit this definition.
Anarchy means lack of government, plain and simple.
Let's look at the greek origins of the word:
"an"- a negating prefix. "archy"- from "archos", which means ruler
Lack of a ruler.
There you go.
The anarchist movements of today are sort of a socialist-liberalist movement. That's the real definition of liberalism, by the way, not the bastardized Rush Limbaugh version. Liberal as in libertarian.
If you think about it, libertarianism is closer to true anarchy than "anarchy" is.
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zeronio
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: Phluck]
#961878 - 10/15/02 12:53 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're right!
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... the "anarchist movements" follow a political doctrine that does not fit this definition ...
That's what I really wanted to say.
The society without central government does not necessary mean that it is chaotic and has no rules. Ants are a good example. Every individual just follows simple rules and the entire society seems very effective and organized even if there is no government. Anarchy is considered utopic because it relies on rules being followed by everybody without repression. From what I know that's not possible with human species.
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Xlea321
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: zeronio]
#962616 - 10/15/02 09:57 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably one of the best examples of anarchism in action was during the spanish civil war before the nazi's and communists attacked the anarchist areas.
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zeronio
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Re: You May Already Be An Anarchist. [Re: Xlea321]
#964997 - 10/16/02 01:16 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I remember it right there was also a successful anarchist community in Ukraine after soviet revolution, but was destroyed by communists.
Declaring yourself as an anarchist (which equaled listening to punk music) was the worst thing to do under communist regime. In elementary school I was caught drawing the "A" sign on the board. Schoolmaster scared the shit out of me. I will never forget it!
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