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SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran)
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Only a US operation bigger than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan combined can stop Iran from its alleged pursuit of a nuclear bomb, a new military report said. Such action, however, risks igniting all-out war in the Middle East.

­Amid escalating rhetoric from Israel and the US over military action against Iran, more than 30 former US diplomats, retired admirals and generals have assembled a report on the consequences of military action against Tehran. The study will be released on Thursday.

The AP received an advance copy of the document, set to be released on Thursday, and reported that the analysis assessed the risks of a possible invasion of Iran, but provided no overall conclusion or recommended course of action.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Frank Kearney, who endorsed the report, claimed that it was intended to “stimulate thinking in the US about the objectives of a military attack on Iran beyond the obvious goal of hitting key components of Iran's nuclear program.”

The report said that a US military attack would harm the current regime’s political standing and damage its ability to launch counterattacks, but Tehran would almost certainly retaliate, “directly and through surrogates, in ways that risked igniting all-out war in the Middle East.”

US strikes could destroy Iran's most important nuclear facilities and damage its military forces but would only delay – not fully stop – the Islamic republic's alleged pursuit of a nuclear weapon.

"Clearly there is some [US] ability to do destruction, which will cause some delay, but what occurs after that?" Kearney said. “You can't kill intellectual power."

In assessing the costs and benefits of a possible strike, the review said that Iran could be stopped only by a military invasion and occupation “more taxing than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.”

"Given Iran's large size and population, and the strength of Iranian nationalism, we estimate that the occupation of Iran would require a commitment of resources and personnel greater than what the US has expended over the past 10 years in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined," the report said.

In the wake of recent anti-US protests across the Middle East, including violent clashes in Egypt and Yemen, the document also warned that such a strike “would add to a perception of the US as anti-Muslim – a perception linked to the US-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and hardened by Internet-based video excerpts of an anti-Muslim film that may have fueled Tuesday's deadly attack on a US diplomatic office in Libya.”


NOw I remember thinking years ago it was only a matter of time but we still have not engaged
them to this point. Tough talking has certainly been ramped up as of late especially with
Benjamin Netanyahu's most recent comments Netanyahu said the Obama administration has no “moral right” to keep Israel from attacking as long as the U.S. doesn’t set its own “red lines” for Iran. His remarks reflect differences over possible military action against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program and a bid to pressure Obama less than two months before the U.S. election to give Israel more detailed guarantees.

The phone call with Obama came after Israeli media including the Haaretz daily said Netanyahu’s request to meet the president in the U.S. later this month was snubbed. The White House said no meeting was arranged only because of scheduling issues and that Netanyahu will confer instead with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
So when
is a realistic time frame for either Israel or the US to actually shut the fuck up or do
something? I heard a theory that the people who killed the US ambassador may be linked
to Iran somehow but that is just talk as of right now.

:strokebeard:

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Sadly its going to happen even at all. Invest now in military contractors. They will be the only winners.


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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: SlashOZ]
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There isn't even solid proof iran is developing weapons. Haven't we learned anything in the last ten years?

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: SlashOZ]
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SlashOZ said:
Sadly its going to happen even at all. Invest now in military contractors. They will be the only winners.



good call


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I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said:
There isn't even solid proof iran is developing weapons. Haven't we learned anything in the last ten years?



yeah, the military industrial complex has learned a lot.

war -----> profit


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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: SlashOZ]
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hmm :strokebeard:
This thread is depressing.


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: xpl0de]
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It's not going to happen anytime soon, if it ever does. The US military is stretched too thin for such a conflict right now.


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said:
It's not going to happen anytime soon, if it ever does. The US military is stretched too thin for such a conflict right now.




How so? The military certainly has a healthy budget with no sign of cutting anything in that
fuckin department anytime soon. We are mostly out of Iraq now so we certainly can make it
happen if the will is there.

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: DeadHearts]
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No we can't. We've been downsizing the military, we're in debt up past our eyeballs & the afgan/Iraqi wars were not exactly rousing successes. Iran is neither of those two countries. Iran has it's shit together. It'll take a lot to bring down that regime, and if we're successful we will be stuck in the same situation we've been in over in Afganistan & Iraq, and they'll be another "big bad country" in Iran's place. Our leaders might be stupid, they might be assholes, and they may be fuck-ups. However, they are out for themselves, and a war with Iran would come at too high of a cost to them. So they won't go for it.


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Dark_Star]
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agree to disagree

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Dark_Star]
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War with Iran can't happen soon enough.


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Everlong]
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Everlong said:
War with Iran can't happen soon enough.




:lolsy:


There is absolutely no reason to do so.

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Everlong]
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Lol what for the economy boom it'll create back home?


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: unknown1123] * 1
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They are a threat to their own region and the world.


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Everlong]
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Everlong said:
They are a threat to their own region and the world.




No they are not.

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: DeadHearts]
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One of my friends is from Iran... Fuck your government for all the shit it does to humanity!


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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Lord_McLovin said:
One of my friends is from Iran... Fuck your government for all the shit it does to humanity!



Eff whose shit?


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I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: SlashOZ]
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SlashOZ said:
Lynnch said:
There isn't even solid proof iran is developing weapons. Haven't we learned anything in the last ten years?



yeah, the military industrial complex has learned a lot.

war -----> profit



The only real winners at the end of every war are the megacorporations that make the weapons and sell em to both sides. :facepalm:
World war one is a good example of how powerful the arms dealers are and how they manipulate certain events or simply stir the the hot water until it boils over


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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said:
There isn't even solid proof iran is developing weapons. Haven't we learned anything in the last ten years?




let's be honest here, it's all about the drama whoring, it's not about the
weapons development, if it were about weapons then why havent we invaded
india, pakistan and especially north korea

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Re: SO when is it really going to happen folks? (War with Iran) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Im thinking in about a year or two.

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