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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
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Anonymous #1 said:
But being a random pothead who's addicted to prescription meds? What's the appeal of it?



:feelsgoodman:

Edited by Anonymous (02/08/12 06:31 PM)

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
Wow dude stop listening to Alex Jones and quit being so paranoid.  The government looks out for us and does things for our own best interest.  You'll learn this someday when you grow up.



Yes, police and politicians only look out for the average citizens best interest.

Idiot.

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Anonymous #14 said:
I was hoping you'd say out of thin air or printing machines #1. but you didn't as i expected you read the question how i assumed you'd read it.

I only asked because you and your family get government assistance. And even though we all would like to believe here in america we get our foodstamps and nigger baby(white people too are niggers) welfare from taxpayers, i would express my ability to call bullshit. I don't know how it is in wherever you live in europe but i would assume it is also created out of thin air.  Once here in america paper 'bills' were once backed by tangible gold, which for even believing that i am now a terrorist in the FBEYEs eyes. The government is only one smaller entity on a larger global scale of control. The governments across the world do things based off of specific interests in no way or shape to help better man kind as a whole. Their interests are purely selfish among a group of who knows how many and in my opinion it is based on power,control and ultimate global dominance which from what it seems like they have mostly completed. Would you like to know who they have had a hard time controlling to their specific interests?

What about those muslims? why so much pressure on these little brown people? well in the years past and future to come you will see what i mean. its not about fucking oil. trust me.



Wow 14, that makes a lot of sense. I am actually ashamed that I haven't thought of that yet. I was thinking it was some financial reason, I know its not about terror or "protecting freedom". It never occurred to me that our interests there are as a result of them not bending to the global agenda. Good point, indeed.

And 1, it is probably difficult for you to fully understand the American government since you don't live here. These bastards are owned, they don't work for us. Yes, many of them try to make changes based on what we assume is there own personal beliefs, but is likely a part of a larger scheme to gradually take our rights. America's government is supposed to be based on our Constitution which imposes clear limits on government. The problem is the Constitution is increasingly ignored. Our federal government is not supposed to have nearly as much power as they have given themselves. Our whole federal drug prohibition is unconstitutional. That is just part of the bullshit. We are a nation obsessed with materialism and excessive consumption, and it is that way for a reason. That is the way they want it. Now tell me that it is in the people's best interest to have such distorted priorities and a practical "mission" to consume and expand as much as is possible? It seems like a one-way road to destruction if you ask me.

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
The government looks out for us and does things for our own best interest.  You'll learn this someday when you grow up.



the goverment passes laws that violate our constitutional rights because they are looking out for us. because you know, those dudes on monkey bars in the desert are such a threat to us

:tard:

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Anonymous #10 said:
Wow dude stop listening to Alex Jones and quit being so paranoid.  The government looks out for us and does things for our own best interest.  You'll learn this someday when you grow up.



Yes, police and politicians only look out for the average citizens best interest.

Idiot.



The police is mostly there to protect "regular citizens", not outsiders. Let me tell you a story.

I was on a trip with friends, and we rented a house by the beach. We meet the owner who shows us the house, gives us the keys, and then briefly leaves to give something he had forgottent in his car (coffee machine or something). Friends start unpacking, and one stupidly leaves one big chunk of dirt (enough for a week) on the table and forgets about it.
The owner comes back, sees the drugs, and we're like "oh fuuuck!" and we nearly shit our pants when he whips his... inspector card out. Yup, he was from the police.
But then he's pretty chill, says he doesn't really mind but that we should be careful, not do anything stupid, because leaving it there was pretty stupid. He then leaves and wishes us a good holiday.

I've got plenty of stories like this. The police has overall always been nice and polite with me. So yeah, they fuck you in the ass because you reject the law, don't be surprized (and some cops, especially certain units can be dicks too, I agree).



Now, with this whole evil government thing... I have met people from the justice system (high-ranked judge) and some minor officials (in my step-family) and guess what? They're regular people. They don't have antennas and don't hide anything from their friends.

What you assume is that a higher power is leading them. But this is a HUGE overestimation of what humans can do : Vietnam, Liberia, Napoleon's Russian campaign, the war in Afghanistan... history of mankind is FILLED with ENORMOUS mistakes. Actually, most of our history is made of failures.
April 1961, bay of pigs, Cuba : the CIA thought, for some reason, that it was a good idea to send a couple of poorly armed and trained opponents of Castro's regime to take back the island, even thought they almost KNEW that the operation had leaked. Consequence? It was a massacre, and nearly staged a nuclear war.
Now that we have access to the archives, we can see that it was simply a mistake. Head command didn't get the right information at the right time, and no one among the decision-makers dared to stand up and stop everything. Everyone tagged along and it nearly was the end of the world.

The NWO conspiracy suggests that there is a groupe of men with superhuman intelligence who NEVER make mistakes, who can control the world without EVER being known, even though you'd need an IMMENSE infrastructure to control such an institution, with thousands and thousands of men.

The NWO fantasy springs from the wild imagination of individuals who do feel that politics are not that simple (and yes they're not, influences within the political sphere are numerous and obscure), but who are not educated enough to make something out of this intuition, giving into childish scenarios.



But believe what you want to believe, don't listen to reflections and education.

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anon 1, just close this thread. :thumbdown: You come on here, which you say you rarely do, just to start shit...

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #2]
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I don't think anyone doubts that some cops and some judges and decent. I got stopped by some police after picking up some friends at a restaurant they just dine and dashed. I didn't know that, so the police hunted me down in minutes and had guns drawn on me and everything. I had a metal pipe my dad made for me and a homemade bong in the trunk which they found. They ended up just making fun of me for how ghetto they were. Didn't charge me with anything and let me go on my way after arresting one of my friends. Now that is the only one situation out of the close to a dozen I have been involved in where the cops weren't assholes with a hard-on for drug busts.

Many of them fully buy in to the "drug war" gravy train, even though it is unconstitutional and pretty much voids their oath to uphold the constitution. It seems pretty clear from my studies that the will of the majority can not jeopardize the rights of the minority, even if it is 1000 to 1. But it does. Many of the laws and government powers are directly violating our rights as outlined in the constitution. Now how could our government become so misguided if there wasn't some larger scheme at work here? Many congressmen and presidents have not had our best interests in mind. Just read all those old documents, like the federalist papers. Our founders feared that this would happen, and sure enough it did.

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #4]
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So an inspector let you keep your pot? And one of your in-laws is a judge? And that justifies police wiping their asses with the constitution on probably a minutely basis in the US?

I want to be very clear on this - All the police have to do to merit kicking the shit out of you, is put THEIR hands on YOU, and at that moment you are resisting arrest. They can then kick the shit out of you, rob you for whatever you have, and then take you to jail. Then when you go to court for resisting arrest, and it's your words against a police officers, the judge can either put your ass in a cage for X amount of years or if he's feeling nice just probation for a year or so.

I've known an armed security guard for several years, who regularly worked with police, handing over criminals robbing houses to them. He told me how he has worked several different counties where police would smoke meth and other drugs to stay awake on the overnights, or to put in overtime, then when they got blasted they would fuck with ANYONE on the street in certain neighborhoods. Including walking up to them and pushing random people to provoke a fight, put them in handcuffs to search their pockets and "confiscate" all their shit, and in some cases take their baton out and just beat someone within an inch of their life because they're wife is fucking someone else. It happens every day, and every night.

I've had the police step on my neck, threaten to take me to an abandoned bridge and "test their mace or taser" on me, and throw me in jail for the entire 72 hours they could hold me without ever telling me what I was arrested for. After I was released, I found out that made up a completely fictitious reason to put me in jail, just because they could.

If you think that a majority of your encounters with police are only for your good, you must be one outstanding fucking citizen.

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Re: Being a regular citizen [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Well it is true that I'm a pretty polite and laid-back person...

Now you speak a lot of constitutional rights, and this is something I hear a lot in America. From a kid who doesn't want to take spanish lessons to a man convicted to death sentence, everyone point their finger at the constitution and say : "hey, this isn't constitutional!"
The constitution is a context. Any competent lawyer can bend its meaning at his own will. The constitution does not truely guarantee anything, laws are what count. Even laws can be twisted around to mean a few different things, but they're at least more accurate than constitutional rights who are more like national ideals and values.

Now why do laws not respect your interpretation of the constitution? Not because of some evil organization, but because people are and will be people.

Can you truely and sincerely say that you care about the political life of your country? Can you tell me about the current state of the freedom of press, about women's rights, about the African-American situation in the South, about the legal context of the financial world, about the state budget, about the global warming debate, about bioengineering ethics? Probably not, like 98% of the population. First conclusion: people are ignorant as hell. Not only that, but recent psychology research has outlined that we're even dumber than we think we are, and this includes intellectuals as it deals with the restrictions, delusions and fallacies that our brain naturally follows.

Add the fact that 90% of the people don't care about illegal drugs and drug-users, and you've got it : it's not that the state is evil and wants to rob you, it's that people don't give a fuck about you. This can be said of pretty much every minority and every community within society. Each group will defend its own interests and try to bend the law accordingly.


Don't blame the government, blame the people.

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