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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Stop giving me the "drugs aren't bad" BULLSHIT. I tripped last week on shrooms, went to bed bout 3am and woke up at 1pm the nxt day. Then the whole nxt day was exhausted. Then I went to go work out and was greeted by sharp twinges in heavy weight. I'm now getting back to my normal self. STOP YOUR BULLSHIT, DRUGS ARE BAD FOR YOUR FUCKING BODY GOD DAMNIT AND IF YOU CAN'T ACCEPT IT THEN AT LEAST I KNOW WHO'S WRONG!!!

That whole "you don't use drugs, drugs use you" quote is true. Accept it and get over it.


In moderation mushrooms have absolutely no negative effects.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Adom]
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That picture in your post is fucking ridiculous and exactly the kind of shit that annoys me.




That picture isn't what you think it is. It was merely a show that he and a few others put on. They attempted to recreate the psychadelic expericne with shows and lights. Before you claim someone is a quake, at least get the facts about him.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Staying up late into the night isn't really that good for your body either you know...


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Staying up late into the night isn't really that good for your body either you know...


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Staying up late into the night isn't really that good for your body either you know...


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: bert]
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I've heard of a double, but never a tripple.  One more and you got a homerun :smile:


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cherk]
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3 strikes, yer outta here!!!

Leary was sort of a fucked up shady character.. but shit, that guy did a lot of acid, what do you expect!??!!?!?!?!??!?! He's just a man, that did a lot of drugs.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: GWAR]
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thank you


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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drugs do fuck you up, and its a sick game they start to play with you. a sick game you start to play with yourself. i agree with you man. its time to get ouf of denial! and face that crap about our lives.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Zero7a1]
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Yah, when you do drugs you end up triple posting, kiddies. Don't do drugggsss...

-shemale nerd bert

P.S. what's timothy leary's most famous writing, I need to read up on him so I can either bash him or worship him.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: bert]
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drugs do fuck you up, and its a sick game they start to play with you. a sick game you start to play with yourself. i agree with you man. its time to get ouf of denial! and face that crap about our lives.




Then why are you posting on the shroomery then, if drugs are bad. Also my life is not crap, I am a student at uni, and like others I understan the importance of psychedelics substances, they are used as a tool for the human imagination not as an escape.

As for leary he was an inteligent being who had a disregared for the goverment in his lawless promotion of psychedelic drugs. He was also in contact with other famouse researches of the 20th centuary. Although his idea on turn on tune in drop out was impractical, I wonder how many kids it stoppd going to nam.



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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: EvilGir]
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Leary was an asshole. He was an informer for the FBI for many years. I'm afraid you Leary fans have been duped. He was not the man he appeared to be. He also got many of his inner circle to inform to the FBI so that they could escape jail.

Have a listen to what Hunter S Thompson has to say about him on the audio commentary to the rereleased Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas DVD (Criterion collection). I promise, your opinion will change.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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All I can say is that I own a pristine quality, hardcover copy of 'The Psychedelic Experience,' signed by Tim Leary Twice! - 20 years apart. I imagine it will be worth a pretty penny to collectors one of these days.

Leary did significant work in psychology prior to his first mushroom experience in Cuernavaca, Mexico. The work is still used today. When last I saw the man, he was a grizzled, somewhat paranoid (he refused the baggy of shrooms I offered to him) and cantankerous old dude, who nevertheless chinned me playfully when I presented my book to be autographed, and he saw his first signature. He was accused by a couple of unstable individuals at his lecture for causing them problems with acid. One idiot said that he took 5 hits of windowpane LSD, and old timers exclaimed "too much, too much," which was the truth. One hit of windowpane was enough for the most stubborn ego.

Tim got lost in his own notariety, in his sudden celebrity with all the young hippy chicks and hip millionaires. He took too much acid at once and never really integrated enough of the experiences to restructure his personality away from being an 'intellectual.' Later in life, with tongue-in-cheek, he devised the SMILE thing; Space Migration Intelligence Life Extension - but never stopped drinking or smoking cigarettes. A trickster character at worst, he was one of the most colorful people of my generation.

"Timothy Leary's dead...No, No...He's outside, looking in..." - Timothy Leary by The Moody Blues


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: CaptBeefheart]
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Leary was an asshole. He was an informer for the FBI for many years.



Please provide some sort of proof to back up this accusation other than what you heard Hunter S. Thompson say.




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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Learyfan]
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Ok then so what is wrong with the man, show us you proof I want urls god dam it.
So Timoth Leary wasnt perfect but he still was a great influence on the 20th century.

Sound like if you hate tim then you have been brainwashed by the media. Media is Evil.

Oh and before slagging him off try and do some research first.
Timothy Leary is great




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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Have you read any of his books?

Didn't think so.


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Dogomush]
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"I think you miss the point these guys had big plans to change the world but all they did was talk about it and do drugs. "

Uh, yeah. Sounds like every single youth in the western world since about 1950. That's nothing special, it's no big failure.

Someone who takes acid and then drops out of school isn't dropping out because they took acid. They're dropping out because they couldn't handle school, or because they decided they didn't want to.

I seriously doubt that the drop out rate for Harvard was any higher when Timothy Leary was doing his research than it is now. Unless you have any data to prove me wrong...

Didn't think so.

Anyways, Timothy Leary was an interesting guy. He wrote some fascinating books, and got the world interested in psychedelic drugs.

Did his actions indirectly result in the demonization of these drugs? Perhaps they did, but that certainly wasn't his intent. Either way, I don't think he can be entirely blamed for this. LSD was becoming a popular recreational drug with or without Leary's help. Leary only got a hold of some because of its increasing notoriety. His research and viewpoints, combined with the fact that he started out as a respected Harvard professor may have actually prevented it from becoming illegal sooner than it did.



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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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"He took too much acid at once and never really integrated enough of the experiences to restructure his personality away from being an 'intellectual.'"

What's wrong with being an intellectual? Does someone have to abandon rational thought and embrace spiritual nonsense in order to be a valid thinker?

"Later in life, with tongue-in-cheek, he devised the SMILE thing; Space Migration Intelligence Life Extension - but never stopped drinking or smoking cigarettes."

Again, you're looking down on him because he doesn't follow your OWN philosophy. If someone enjoys drinking and smoking cigarettes, there's nothing wrong with that. Drinking, in moderation, causes no health problems whatsoever, in fact, there are benefits to mild alcohol use. Many people smoke cigarettes for years with few problems, sure, they may be the minority, but if someone decides they want to smoke and risk the consequences, I don't see how that makes them any less of a human being.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: Cracka_X]
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Most great men are still just men....................

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Then I went to go work out and was greeted by sharp twinges in heavy weight.



Instead of hurling testosterone driven iron perhaps some tai chi to integrate body and mind after using psychadelics is more appropriate to the experience.At any rate if you are still a wreck after 10 hrs of sleep then I would suggest you have an intrinsic weakness which is brought out by the psychadelic experience.This lies soley within you as your infirmity is highly unusual even among the most athletic of users.Some of the weakest men I know can bench 400+ :wink: WR 


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Re: Timothy Leary wasn't a great man. [Re: whiterasta]
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"Then I went to go work out and was greeted by sharp twinges in heavy weight."

Exactly.

Who's to say this is really the effects of the mushrooms?
I generally feel great after getting a good night's sleep and tripping the night before. There have been no documented reports of mushrooms causing muscle damage.

Just because something is a drug, does not mean that it is damaging your body. Drugs can damage your body, yes, but this doesn't mean that they WILL damage your body. Safe, intelligent drug use can be part of a healthy lifestyle.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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