iThink said:

Orestes211 said:

So my question is this: Does life contain an inherent meaning of its own or does everything create its own meaning of life? Would like to hear opinions and why.

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No there is no meaning to life. From all the information at our disposal you can conclude that we are nothing more than matter being manipulated by the impersonal forces of the universe.

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random_wanderer said:

iThink said:

Orestes211 said:

So my question is this: Does life contain an inherent meaning of its own or does everything create its own meaning of life? Would like to hear opinions and why.

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No there is no meaning to life. From all the information at our disposal you can conclude that we are nothing more than matter being manipulated by the impersonal forces of the universe.

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What information at our disposal leads to this conclusion?

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Poid said:

It's more like the lack of information--we don't have any information that can lead us to conclude that there is an objective meaning to life.

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random_wanderer said:

...this does not mean that a deep reality does not exist.

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Nuh uh, my life is at least 23 meaningtons more meaningful than yours.

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millzy said:

life is subjectively experienced, so its meaning on a subjective level varies. why are we alive? the answer is simple: to live. any other answer is simply a projection of an individual's ego/shadow-centric desires.

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random_wanderer said:

iThink said:

Orestes211 said:

So my question is this: Does life contain an inherent meaning of its own or does everything create its own meaning of life? Would like to hear opinions and why.

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No there is no meaning to life. From all the information at our disposal you can conclude that we are nothing more than matter being manipulated by the impersonal forces of the universe.

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What information at our disposal leads to this conclusion?

Information is subject to the parameters of its interpretation. 

No meaning is a form of meaning.

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BlueCoyote said:

Has a stone meaning to a plant which grew in its slipstream ?

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Envix said:

i think the universe is made of math and driven by intent

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BlueCoyote said:

Has a stone meaning to a plant which grew in its slipstream ?

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millzy said:

manipulation implies intent as well. we can all agree that we exist in some degree or other, and the best explanation as to why is that because we're supposed to be. even from the most staunch, rationalist and atheistic view point one could not deny that without contradicting themselves. things are the way they are because that's how they have to be for us to be here. and on that note we don't exactly have the entire picture of how that's happening either. that doesn't necessarily imply a singular, supernatural personality at the helm. the term supernatural in itself implies something that isn't present in nature, and if it isn't present in nature how can we experience it on any level? in any case all we have is what our instrumentation (internal and external) gives us from our own unique place in space/time. there's much of what we don't know and probably even more of what we can't being constrained by our finite experience of reality. 

i personally think asking the question of "what are you going to do now that you're here?" first tends to lead to the answer of "why" anyway.

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millzy said:

BlueCoyote said:

Has a stone meaning to a plant which grew in its slipstream ?

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to a degree. every living thing possesses a distinct level of consciousness that allows it to exist in accord with its environment. plant consciousness has been studied and is very real, and not in a "plant spirits" hippy moonspeak sort of way either.

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iThink said:

random_wanderer said:

iThink said:

Orestes211 said:

So my question is this: Does life contain an inherent meaning of its own or does everything create its own meaning of life? Would like to hear opinions and why.

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No there is no meaning to life. From all the information at our disposal you can conclude that we are nothing more than matter being manipulated by the impersonal forces of the universe.

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What information at our disposal leads to this conclusion?

Information is subject to the parameters of its interpretation. 

No meaning is a form of meaning.

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The fact that through the scientific method which relies on senses, we have discovered physical and quantifiable explanations without fail for previously unknown phenomenon. To say there is anything more than this is to rely solely on conjecture and the fact that it is a possibility when anything is a possibility.

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