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The Meaning Of Life
#1561872 - 05/19/03 10:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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any thoughts?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: gedezia]
#1561972 - 05/19/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Life has no a priori meaning. You give meaning to your own life.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: gedezia]
#1561978 - 05/19/03 11:27 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Meaning is a concept born in the human mind, we assign meaning to various things, with some of these things the meaning is more personal than others. The meaning of life cannot be found in a book, a religion, a guru or on an internet forum. It is you who is best qualified to discover it within yourself and within the scope of your existence (this is in no way meant to discount the opinions of others regarding the meaning they may have found). Enjoy the discovery, it can be quite wonderful and never ending.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Evolving]
#1561986 - 05/19/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great replies!
My thoughts: To experience and explore contiousness.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: gedezia]
#1562013 - 05/19/03 11:39 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought that's what we were talking about in the Why am I Here? thread?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1562015 - 05/19/03 11:42 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1562019 - 05/19/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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well damn which thread am I supposed to post my thoughts on?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1562074 - 05/20/03 12:22 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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why not both?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Smack31]
#1562090 - 05/20/03 12:31 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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aren't you a mod? what's going on here? mass confusion, I say!!
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1562116 - 05/20/03 12:43 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mod Madness! 
The meaning of life is to experience it, and hopefully learn a thing or two.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Shroomism]
#1562132 - 05/20/03 12:50 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm wondering how what we learn here gets realized after our brain dies
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Edited by Strumpling (05/20/03 12:50 AM)
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Shroomism]
#1562134 - 05/20/03 12:51 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I learned that poop smells bad.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1562154 - 05/20/03 01:04 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, it's a start.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: silversoul7]
#1562169 - 05/20/03 01:16 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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my take of the meaning of life.
we are made of heavy elements borne from supernovae. therefore we are the universe. when we look up to the heavens and wonder whats out there in a basic way its just the universe looking at itself. so maybe we are just here because the universe is trying ot understand ifself. of course to believe this you would have to believe in a greater consciousness, and all that. but thats how i look at things.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1562172 - 05/20/03 01:18 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm wondering how what we learn here gets realized after our brain dies
I think it's imprinted onto our soul.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1562193 - 05/20/03 01:26 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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then I guess I'm wondering what my soul is (edit: addition) and how IT realizes the new information after the body dies
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Edited by Strumpling (05/20/03 01:27 AM)
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1562205 - 05/20/03 01:31 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know. Any theroy on that would be hard to prove.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1562213 - 05/20/03 01:34 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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well yeah heh that's why i like thinking about it - we're pretty deep here, man.. the meaning of life and the "hows" of evolution? heh that's tricky stuff right there
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: gedezia]
#1562728 - 05/20/03 11:16 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMO Meaning of Life is very simple
The meaning of Life is to GIVE LIFE MEANING.
Hows that saying go, the only way for evil to triumph in the world is for GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING!
What meaning will you give to Life?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: SafeHaven]
#1562740 - 05/20/03 11:26 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hows that saying go, the only way for evil to triumph in the world is for GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING!
a problem arises when both sides believe they are the "good men".
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: ]
#1562760 - 05/20/03 11:39 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think there can be a "truth" in the matter what is considered Good Men.
Men have good intentions, though the outcome may not be so good.
The non destructive, no hate, Love for all , attitude is what can help define good men.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: SafeHaven]
#1562839 - 05/20/03 12:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no meaning of life. Humans are generally ignorant, and automatically assume there is a meaning to all things, when in fact, as stated earlier, the only things that have true meaning are those with which we ourselves give meaning to, such as our own lives and actions. "Why" is the infinite unanswerable question. Life exists, and that is all. For every answer you get, you can ask why again and still not come to the "true" answer you're looking for. There is no "why". Just circles of questions without answers. That's what I think anyways.
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There is no meaning of life. Humans are generally ignorant, and automatically assume there is a meaning to all things, when in fact, as stated earlier, the only things that have true meaning are those with which we ourselves give meaning to, such as our own lives and actions.
Isnt that what I said? Though sounds like you contradicted yourself with your first sentence and then in the second part of your second sentence you seem to say there is a meaning. The collective thoughts, wants, needs, desires, of all "Good Men" and the follow through of those deeds are what makes life meaningful. So there is a meaning!! IMO...always
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: SafeHaven]
#1563520 - 05/20/03 04:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep you said it, but I think your confusing finding meaning for your own life with The Meaning of All Life. As in the creation of all living things. Two different things.
Btw, what exactly is the definition of "good men"? Surely if there is good I'm assuming you also think there is evil. Let me ask you, when was the last time you met someone who was evil? Where they evil because they truly were, or were they evil because you thought so?
And when was the last person you met who thought of themself and their own actions evil. I don't really believe in good and evil. I believe in human nature and instincts. People justify their own actions in their mind. If you beat your wife are you doing it because you're evil or because you yourself were beaten? If a dog kills another dog they call it survival, but when a man kills another man they call it murder. How are these different enough that one would be considered evil and the other would be considered instinct?
Not that I condone murder or anything.
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Yep you said it, but I think your confusing finding meaning for your own life with The Meaning of All Life. As in the creation of all living things. Two different things.
Actually I think you got the question wrong. Meaning of Life? The creation of Life as in Why? or the Meaning of Life as I perceive it.
When the Meaning of Life is asked I dont perceive it as what is the Meaning of MY Life. Even though they are one in the same.
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Btw, what exactly is the definition of "good men"? Surely if there is good I'm assuming you also think there is evil. Let me ask you, when was the last time you met someone who was evil? Where they evil because they truly were, or were they evil because you thought so?
What is a "good men". One that in their hearts does good by their actions. Are you one through your actions destroy? or one to do something that creates a positive outcome? Though not any single action should be judged on a person to define them as good or evil but by the sum of their actions.
As in the wife beating, he may have grown up around it and is affected by environment but inherently knows what is good and bad. (though there are exceptions though that can be argued)
The dog, thats totally different, you come at me to hurt me and I kill you thats not murder its self defense. Out of lust, lack of care or any other besides self defense, it becomes murder. (for human) Animals are distinctly different as they dont have the ability developed as far as we do to reason, among thousands of other traits to distinguish what it is to be human from a animal. To reason is what sets us apart from the animals from what the difference between what is right and wrong. Though some animals do show these traits.
Keep in mind we are top of the food chain, we have no natural predator but ourselves. Why do you think we murder so much and take our own lives? Its not the only reason but on a macro environment related scale it is.
Back to the main topic more so, there is wildly different defintions on good and evil based on perception. More than one war has been fought in the name of GOD. Though a half intelligent outsider knows its more about land, money, gold, and resources and not what GOD wants. Unless of course you get idiots who pervert a good religion by doing things cause it what is says in their bible. Even though its a interpretation on a warped mind, though a stretched one at that.
Just a thought..... 
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: SafeHaven]
#1565950 - 05/21/03 12:53 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anybody read Kurt Vonnegut? He's written that the Meaning of Life is to be God's eyes and ears. Makes sense, doesn't it?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: MACDADDY]
#1566827 - 05/21/03 05:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes it does.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1568866 - 05/22/03 10:20 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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What Is that book called, Slaughter House Five?
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: MACDADDY]
#1568881 - 05/22/03 10:26 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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it makes sense without the word God, yeah......
i fucking hate that word
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Strumpling]
#1569183 - 05/22/03 12:43 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can see why you hate it. 
I dislike the word a bit because peoples image of God only applies to their belief of what God is.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: Murex]
#1569564 - 05/22/03 02:27 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah its such a generic word.....
Some guy who things God = Existence can say "thank God" to a christian and they'd both think they were talking about the same thing because they're using the same word. Anyway, this isn't really the topic at all so I'll leave it alone..
But life being the eyes of the Everything makes plenty of sense; yes.
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Re: The Meaning Of Life [Re: SafeHaven]
#1569633 - 05/22/03 02:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I figured you would say as much. It's true that most people know the difference between "bad" and "good". But really, there is no bad or good. Concepts like that were created for humans by humans as means for societies to have order and control. The same goes for religion. Underneath all the fantastical stories is the base of it. RULES. Without those principals, without laws, rules or set "goods" and "bads", no society would work. It would be complete chaos.
We are at the top of the food chain (though I dont recommend testing this in a cage with a lion) so it is quite natural for most humans to think of ourselves rather highly. I think our perceptions of what is right and wrong, good or bad, is a prime example of this. We seem to have forgotten that we are still just animals. When someone mentions the animal kingdom, they don't think of themselves in that category. We think were better than that. More complicated? Yes. More intelligent? Duh. Better? Not at all. We eat, we shit, we fuck, we die. Any justifications about what is right or wrong is there to make us feel superior and for control.
IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY! Heh, jk. But yea.
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