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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Strumpling]
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Ying and Yang


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Peace out my brothers, for everyone has a bit of insanity in them

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: GrowingVines]
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I thought it was "YIN" and "YANG?" maybe either way?


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Strumpling]
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not sure...now me have to go find it in book =).


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Peace out my brothers, for everyone has a bit of insanity in them

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: thePatient]
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The meaning of your life luckily enough, is to create your own meaning.

And that is why I smile =)

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: RebelSteve33]
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but why? it's one of the best books i've ever had the pleasure of reading. plus i'm only a couple chapters away from the end!!! i just wish more people were participating in the so-called "discussion."

I enjoy your debate over there very much. Unfortunately, I absolutely hate Ayn Rand.

I'm obviously not the one to tell you what to read and what to drop. Reading is a good thing. However, you might also want to read up a little on the other side of Ayn Rand, the dark side. She definitely promotes a very controversial philosophy. I'm not sure if it is a good thing to base one's everyday life on the writings of  someone who argued that the violent conquest of America was...

"...a superlative material achievement in the midst of an untouched wilderness, against the resistance of savage tribes.''

So, don't drop the book. It's a great book. But be a little critical, will ya? I mean, you are a scientist. You are supposed to be critical, no?  :wink:     

Edited by Nomad (01/31/03 07:33 AM)

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Nomad]
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I think RebelSteve33 is quite capable of separating the wheat from the chaff. With Ayn Rand, there is definitely some mental nourishment and some things worth considering.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Evolving]
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I think RebelSteve33 is quite capable of separating the wheat from the chaff.

No doubt. It's just that it is a very suggestive book. You know, all the factory-owners are tall, blonde and blue-eyed, and all the socially committed people are small, old and wrinkled.

With Ayn Rand, there is definitely some mental nourishment and some things worth considering.

No doubt. But that which is worth considering is better explained by better writers. Especially those who are really anti-authoritarian.

Ah, how I miss the times when I was a politics junkie. I used to eat an anarcho-capitalist for breakfast at least once a week. But there are, indeed, better drugs out there than politics.

Now, how did I get here... umm... a little off-topic, isn't it?

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Aaladorn]
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Since I've been reading The Fountainhead recently:
I am the meaning of life, me.


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Aaladorn]
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firstly in this world the meaning of living, is to rpeorudce and carry on the species, aside from that..

Why do people ask whats the maning of life? whats it all about? where do we come from? where are we going?

Its all the same thing, somewhere deep inside these questions are answered, look within yourself. :tongue:


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Crash a cig guvnor?

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Evolving]
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I think RebelSteve33 is quite capable of separating the wheat from the chaff.

Thank you, Evolving; I appreciate that! :smile:

I do appreciate your warning, though, Nomad.  It was very considerate.

The philosophy that Rand represents is a very controversial way of thinking, and the way she presents it in her books does make it seem very desireable.  But I know enough not to let myself be brainwashed.

I have been debating with myself over the philosophy that she represents ever since I read Anthem.  Now I have read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, and I'm still not sure what exactly I feel about her views.

As of right now I would have to say that I agree with Rand's views in many aspects, but there are certain, very strong aspects of my own philosophy that make me have to disagree with her in some ways.  It would take forever for me to explain exactly how, but for now let me just say that my own philosophy on the subject  is a mixture of hers and my own.

Anyhow... The point is  that I think the book is, without a doubt, worth reading.  As long as you allow yourself to be objective, yet skeptical about it at the same time.  :wink:

-RebelSteve

P.S.  Sorry 'bout this thread going a bit off topic!  :blush: 

I'll shut up now!  :laugh:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: mntlfngrs]
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Good quote! 

Good book, too!

:laugh:

-RebelSteve


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: RebelSteve33]
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How can one resist the temptation of a post such as this:

" the meaning of life is to decide your own meaning, if you cannot understand this than you are foolish. It is easy to get caught up in your individual meaning by placing too much emphasis on it, after all your death may be around the next corner. therefore you should live every moment as the meaning of your life which it is. So you must first dream of a warm blanket on a cold winters night before the dream of a great artist or musician can be experienced. live each moment as an expression toward your dream "

" when you fall asleep you dream, and when you awaken you continue to dream, and very few ever become lucid during this experience "


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" liken this life illusory, for your sand castle will one day be adrift amongst the wind "



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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Aaladorn]
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just throwing out a thought here...
many say that one creates his own reality. if one creates his own reality, then does he not also create his own purpose and meaning for life? i think that everyone has a different "meaning of life", depending on the reality they've created for themselves, even if this is a slight difference in some cases.


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"Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?"
- Bill Hicks

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: RebelSteve33]
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Steve,
I sort of feel the same way although I feel I need to read some more of Rands work before I can feel like I have a grasp of her objectivism philosophy. I really liked Roarks defense at the end of The Fountain Head . Altruism may not be all it is cracked up to be. I've been thinking a lot about her views regarding individualism vs collectivism in regards to the US vs the UN. Anyway, I think it is always good advice to remain true to ones self.
You might enjoy this if you haven't seen it.
The Objectivism Reference Center


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Aaladorn]
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Everything in this universe is a contradiction. In order for there to be life, there must be death. For order; there must be chaos. For happiness, there must be unhappiness. For good, there must be evil. For light, there must be dark. Accept that in this universe of chaos, that there will always be those negative things, try not to let them overwhelm you, but try to change them to positive as much as you can.

I agree with this. It's like this paragraph. If the whole paragraph is in bold--a feature used to highlight something special, except for this small portion, which part stands out at the reader? So if everything were written in bold, then it would lose its power.

I'll shut up now.

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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Aaladorn]
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The meaning of life is to LIVE IT. You've only got one life to live and who knows if you're resurrected as someone or something else when you die. As far as I know, that's it when you're it. So I believe living life to the fullest is the meaning of life, that way when I'm on my death bed I can think to myself that I had no doubts about whatever I did through my term. Instead of being someone who lets chances go by, I'll grasp them when the window of opportunity is open and give it my best shot and be the best I can be. And hopefully have a kid who can be even better than me to carry on my legacy and hopefully he'll have kin to which they'll in time begin.

LIVE YOUR LIFE, YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE TO LIVE,
Cracka_X


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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