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Do you want to be enlightened?
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Or do you just like talking about it?


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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Both.

Here there is no student and there is no master. Only those who wish to discuss in order to broaden there views on this subject.

We all share a common goal so why not discuss it?      :rastamon:


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To those that don't know me, I am your guide. To those that don't like me, I am misunderstood.To those that don't see me, open your eyes, I am there. To those that don't hear me, listen, I am talking. To those that know me, I AM.

> "Some call me the gangster of LOVE"......... - Steve Miller

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Or do you just like talking about it?


I am enlightened but nobody wants to hear me talk about it.:shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Depends.  What kinda pension plan do I get if I go with enlightenment?


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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I think everyone who posts in this forum has some type of internal drive towards something more than what we are offered in the contemporary (specifically Western) world. What makes us different? I'm not sure.

And I'll add this type of stuff amounts to the vast majority of what I think about during my days.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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right now? yes.


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If you're frightened of dying and  you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: JackofSpades]
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Enlightenment is not magical. It is not an utter ascension. It's simply catching sight of the spiritual path.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: auxiliary]
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I think it's catching sight of the psychological path.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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You're entitled to your semantic interpretation.

EDIT: Got creative with spelling


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Edited by auxiliary (06/18/10 10:06 PM)

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: auxiliary]
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so then ive been enlightened for a while.

then rather i would like to achieve nirvana so i can stop dying and being reborn.


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If you're frightened of dying and  you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: auxiliary]
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auxiliary said:
You're entitled to your semantic interpretation.

EDIT: Got creative with spelling


And you're entitled to your magical interpretation. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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God damn right:mel:


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If you're frightened of dying and  you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Or do you just like talking about it?


Shine On You Crazy Diamond

I don't talk I just shine.

Animals see it.

People are blind.

I am God.

You are God.

You are not me.

I am not God.

Just Kidding.

Other than animals know the gentle soul that is me.

Even as people judge and can not see.

Shine On.

You Crazy Diamond.



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Anxiety is what you make it.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
auxiliary said:
You're entitled to your semantic interpretation.

EDIT: Got creative with spelling


And you're entitled to your magical interpretation. :thumbup:


Whats so magical about it?


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: auxiliary]
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IMO spirituality is a result of magical thinking based in death anxiety. :shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
IMO spirituality is a result of magical thinking based in death anxiety. :shrug:


Spirit is the placeholder for future scientific observations and terminology. I think there is plenty of energy that we are not aware of (at least as a whole), let alone be able to interpret.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
IMO spirituality is a result of magical thinking based in death anxiety. :shrug:


That's right. I know your opinion.
Riddle me this- out of complete nothingness, what are the odds you'd be alive, on a rock we named Earth, orbiting a rather conveniently placed, life breathing star we call the sun? Your conscious right now, right? You can feel that, right? Seems pretty magical to me.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Icelander said:
IMO spirituality is a result of magical thinking based in death anxiety. :shrug:


Spirit is the placeholder for future scientific observations and terminology. I think there is plenty of energy that we are not aware of (at least as a whole), let alone be able to interpret.



We may not be aware of most of what is going on without any of it being "spiritual".:shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: auxiliary]
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auxiliary said:
Icelander said:
IMO spirituality is a result of magical thinking based in death anxiety. :shrug:


That's right. I know your opinion.
Riddle me this- out of complete nothingness, what are the odds you'd be alive, on a rock we named Earth, orbiting a rather conveniently placed, life breathing star we call the sun? Your conscious right now, right? You can feel that, right? Seems pretty magical to me.



The odds are 100%. Things happen because they can. None of this happens to be magic imo. It's all perfectly natural to the universe we inhabit.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
The odds are 100%. Things happen because they can. None of this happens to be magic imo. It's all perfectly natural to the universe we inhabit.


Magic is natural. :crazy2:


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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In one sense everything is magic; in another nothing is.  This seems to rather dilute the word.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: deCypher] * 1
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Cyph3r said:
In one sense everything is magic; in another nothing is.  This seems to rather dilute the word.


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."
    —Albert Einstein


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Icelander said:
The odds are 100%. Things happen because they can. None of this happens to be magic imo. It's all perfectly natural to the universe we inhabit.


Magic is natural. :crazy2:


War is peace.:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: deCypher]
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Enlightenment is going, "Oh I'm God, look at that. Is that all it is? Just this and Now? It's already over? Okay. I accept."

Life doesn't blow your mind. Life is a mind, that was always blown.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: bodhicitta]
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bodhicitta said:
when you use the term magical thinking you reduce it to small associations in your mind


Thankyou.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: deCypher]
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Cyph3r said:
In one sense everything is magic; in another nothing is.  This seems to rather dilute the word.


Have you ever been Hobbled? Mr Man?



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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Multiple times.  I try to overcome the suffering that Life puts in my way.  PS I love Stephen King.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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magic is everywhere in this bitch.


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If you're frightened of dying and  you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: bodhicitta]
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bodhicitta said:
Icelander said:
WScottsdale said:
Icelander said:
The odds are 100%. Things happen because they can. None of this happens to be magic imo. It's all perfectly natural to the universe we inhabit.


Magic is natural. :crazy2:


War is peace.:lol:


it just shows that thinking in labels is a shortcut to actual thought. when you use the term magical thinking you reduce it to small associations in your mind tied up to theories from shrinks who never experienced anything remotely far out from their constricted academic boxes and who wouldn't have recognized anything unusual if it hit them on the head because two days later they would have been reestablished in their patterned preconceptions by default.



You're thinking in stereotypes. :nono::lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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The hypocrite has a point.


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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: bodhicitta]
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:lol: Life is just a game.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
bodhicitta said:
Icelander said:
War is peace.:lol:


it just shows that thinking in labels is a shortcut to actual thought. when you use the term magical thinking you reduce it to small associations in your mind tied up to theories from shrinks who never experienced anything remotely far out from their constricted academic boxes and who wouldn't have recognized anything unusual if it hit them on the head because two days later they would have been reestablished in their patterned preconceptions by default.



You're thinking in stereotypes. :nono::lol:


Still, he has a point.  I mean, can you really just accept the academic perspective on psychology hook line and sinker?  A distinction between a student of psychology and a spiritual seeker might be that the seekers have the impulse to find out for themselves and not be satisfied with what they are told.


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drowse in prison and your waking will be but loss

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: circastes]
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circastes said:
Enlightenment is going, "Oh I'm God, look at that. Is that all it is? Just this and Now? It's already over? Okay. I accept."

Life doesn't blow your mind. Life is a mind, that was always blown.


We Gotta Get Out Of This Place.  I can't be enlightened here on Earth.



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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Or do you just like talking about it?


Writing is far more effective than talking, and can actually induce awakening.

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: g00ru]
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I mean, can you really just accept the academic perspective on psychology hook line and sinker?

I'm much more likely to when (as it has) it jibes with my own personal experience.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: Icelander]
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I wish I could say the same :prance:


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check out my music!
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Re: Do you want to be enlightened? [Re: g00ru]
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lol, I'm not too sure how anyone can see a difference between what Buddhism says and what academic psychology says. There are some things that Buddhism speaks about that psychology does not, but this does not mean there is a difference. The things they both speak about are in agreement. The places that psychology doesn't speak about are the places that it cannot study.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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