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Happiness is internal
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I think this thinking is mostly used as an excuse by spiritual wanabees not to make any changes to their lifestyle and habits. I certaintly used it a lot back in the day and would warn anyone against falling into the trap of thinking that they can just sit there all day doing nothing and being peaceful/happy.


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Grapefruit]
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The Buddha realized that the middle path is the one that works.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Grapefruit]
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it is a result of both internal and external stimuli...if n e thinks otherwise question me and b blown out the water.  what we need to understand is that if we change our surroundings and our settings our emotional health will in turn change and slightly in turn our physical health as well. our internal is influenced by external...if we saw death all the time it would be normal and we would have no reaction whereas someone who grows up in the burbs sees a massacre and loses there mind!

we need to make active changes if we want change...time is a fake enemy that most believe in too heavily

ya feel meh?


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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Shamanisticts]
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O ya, where did you pop up from? Stick around.


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"Chat your fraff
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Just chat your fraff
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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Grapefruit]
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Internal is the only one we can control.
Internal changes manifest externally.
The external then provides more sensory information about this change.
I tend to see it as a feedback loop. 

Inner change -> external manifestation -> echo


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
Internal is the only one we can control.
Internal changes manifest externally.
The external then provides more sensory information about this change.
I tend to see it as a feedback loop. 

Inner change -> external manifestation -> echo


word is bond. Once we realize that we can control the external through the internal does the ball start rolling. Once we open our eyes and see it is a feedback loop then we are free.  but if we dont know this and we still focus on the internal nothing will get done. so active introspection or internal stimulation is the only way to make that a positive thing, other then that, sitting on your ass is a waste of time.

and i think ill kick it for a while, dis is fun!


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I am a mycologist, meaning I STUDY mushrooms, It is a 100% fun, mentally stimulating, and legal practice

Some DO grow psilocybin mushrooms, either in a place where it is legal or not, and they may have questions that I may be able to help answer, the shroomery is dedicated to furthering knowledge of ALL fungus, and I am here to help others

Any statement of mine indicating Illegal or immoral use of this knowledge is theoretical and given out for the furthering of knowledge of ALL Mycologists/Enthusiasts worldwide!

(unlawful interrogation and immoral arrests of individuals on this website have lead me to such degrees as HAVING to put a disclaimer out, I wish it weren't like that)

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Shamanisticts]
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Oh yeah, I agree, sitting on your ass isn't going to do much... unless you watch what happens when you do sit on your ass.
But most meditations emphasize observing not only what goes on internally, but also observing what occurs externally.
Witnessing the effects of thoughts on your bodily sensations, for instance.
It's sitting on your ass, but there's more going on than just sitting.
It's training to watch bodily sensations and thoughts while in a more dynamic world.

If you just try to jump into the deep end of the pool before knowing how to swim, you may eventually learn, but it's probably not the easiest way.
And some may even drown.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

Edited by Kickle (04/07/10 11:30 AM)

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Kickle]
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all that must be said is indeed :smile:


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I am a mycologist, meaning I STUDY mushrooms, It is a 100% fun, mentally stimulating, and legal practice

Some DO grow psilocybin mushrooms, either in a place where it is legal or not, and they may have questions that I may be able to help answer, the shroomery is dedicated to furthering knowledge of ALL fungus, and I am here to help others

Any statement of mine indicating Illegal or immoral use of this knowledge is theoretical and given out for the furthering of knowledge of ALL Mycologists/Enthusiasts worldwide!

(unlawful interrogation and immoral arrests of individuals on this website have lead me to such degrees as HAVING to put a disclaimer out, I wish it weren't like that)

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Shamanisticts]
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kickle, i can give you another metaphor that says exactly the opposite of "If you just try to jump into the deep end of the pool before knowing how to swim, you may eventually learn, but it's probably not the easiest way. And some may even drown."

how do you go into the ocean? do you tippy-toe into the ocean? NO, you jump right in.

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: moi]
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now which of our metaphors is true? cause they contradict each other and both sound nice :wink: .. i stick with mine, cause it comes from someone being in samadhi :smile:

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: moi]
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I'm glad you can still be happy even if I'm beating you to death with a 2x4.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: deCypher]
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Happiness is internal :doggystyle:


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BACON RANCH, FUCK YEAH

A post about m00nshine

Anonymous #6 said:
Yes, it is. The shine stands for his job title, which is Shoe Shiner, the moon stands for the time he comes out to be a nigger, which is best suited for the negroid camouflage.

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: moi]
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moi said:
now which of our metaphors is true? cause they contradict each other and both sound nice :wink: .. i stick with mine, cause it comes from someone being in samadhi :smile:


I'm sure context makes all the difference.
I've witnessed people metaphorically drowning, and it wasn't until they were told they weren't swimming that they even tried.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
Internal is the only one we can control.
Internal changes manifest externally.
The external then provides more sensory information about this change.
I tend to see it as a feedback loop. 

Inner change -> external manifestation -> echo


Yeh, i get what you mean but I think that some people misinterperet it. Which is what this thread's really about.


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"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Grapefruit]
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don't strive for happiness , but rather strive for a neutral state of mind. :thumbup:

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: FedorEmelianenko]
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Isn't that what they give meds for?:laugh:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: Icelander]
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:lol: Yeh, you get some fucking boring drugs.


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"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: FedorEmelianenko]
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FedorEmelianenko said:
don't strive for happiness , but rather strive for a neutral state of mind. :thumbup:


Hm.. I rather like happiness.. I think I'm gonna strive for that.

However, I think the whole idea here is that while I'm seeking that which makes me happy, I should take in and appreciate all of my experiences fully as they happen, rather than obsessing about some far off happiness that I'm desperately grasping for.


Icelander said:
The Buddha realized that the middle path is the one that works.


:thumbup:


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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: sorahtak]
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i'd say it's less of a feedback loop and more of a choice.

but it could be like a feedback loop when you make said choice.

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Re: Happiness is internal [Re: akira_akuma]
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happiness is only temporary and it will go, so striving for happiness is attaching to happiness, and since it is temporary this means suffering. it's all about realizing the true self. not about striving for happiness. find your true self, guys... not in the way you THINK the buddhists wanted to tell you. just find your own integrity and honesty. find out that you really lose your integrity so often. you give it away. you give away your power and freedom very often too. like when you speak to your boss, you speak from a different position than your self. find your true self and find out that this self is everything that matters. bring it out in every situation and see the difference.

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