bw86 said:

tub in tub incubators

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artizen said:

any incubator

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sleepyrz said:

an incubator is useful if you live outside in a tent in canada

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What about those of us who live in igloos?    Is Alaska part of Canada now? What about Russia? Oh wait, it only gets cold in Canada.

What actually should be stated; you know, because you don't want to confuse the Noobs and all, is that incubators have their place.

Like folks here have been stating for some time now that they live in cold climates and don't have the luxury of having their 'incubation' areas at optimal temperatures. Hence the need for some sort of incubator.

I can't for the life of me figure out why a small group of people here keep bashing folks for using one, Like, "OH God no!", just because they have never, or failed with. But yet, tell people it's great to use just a normal light bulb, or grow in a small closet, or don't mist directly, etc., etc. 

Not taking a shot at anyone, just quoting and adding my    Still feelin' the love.

sleepyrz said:

an incubator is useful if you live outside in a tent in canada

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veda_sticks said:

Im a little disapointed to find people still saying gloveboxes are a waste of time.

I dont doubt that a SELECT group of people are very successfull with doing inoculations in open air, however from being on this forum nearly every day for the past 3-4 years and from my own personal experiences. Not using a glovebox has been the cause of alot of failures.

The needle is not the only point that contamination could get into a jar, the jar itself is also at risk. Spores landing on the jar lid, on the inoc holes and getting pushed through during inoculation.

I tried and tried using open air inoculations, keeping the needle covered, wiping the jar lid with IPA, even flaming and inoculating wile the needle was still hot and i would get 90% contam rate.

Glovebox's are certainly not a waste of time and considering how cheaply 1 can be constructed and if made right, they are very easy to work inside.

If you use a glovebox you also save money on all those chemicals you are spraying everywhere. No need to empty a bottle of lysol and a can of oust, just a nice few spraws around your glovebox.

IMO open air inoculations are a waste of time, too much effort spent trying to sterilise the air and surfaces. Yoiu'd be better of spending a few minutes each day keeping your place tidy and clean.

I made mine oiut of cardboard.



Total cost was for that was somewhere around £1 after buying clinging film.

99% success rate, inoculating substrates, LC making prints and syringes.

My flat however does have a high spore count. My bedroom (which i dont use) grows green mold. Its winter just now, i put a chair in there which i dont use and its growing mold after just a month and its bloody cold in there, muyst be close to 0.

Not everyone has a very clean place thats dry with a low spore count.

Also, i noticed someone put down lighting as a waste. The best mushrooms i have grown, and that i have seen grown across the forum has been with bright light in the daylight range on a day night schedule.

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ducky1 said:

buying desiccant was a waste of money for me.  I went and bought a cheap adjustable dehydrator.  Little extra upfront cost, but worth it.  Now I have a bag of damp rid, and will probably never use it.

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ducky1 said:

buying desiccant was a waste of money for me.  I went and bought a cheap adjustable dehydrator.  Little extra upfront cost, but worth it.  Now I have a bag of damp rid, and will probably never use it.

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Put the damprid in coffe filters and store a packet in the ziploc baggie with your shrooms.

That's all I use mine for.

koopa_troopa said:

For most noobie growers doing bulk, casing layers often result in more problems than their worth. The benefits of adding a casing layer are usually offset by the risk of adding another chance at inducing contamination when a person is relatively unexperienced with the process.. With cubes atleast..

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thats if they even know what a "casing" actualy is...most think spawning to bulk is called casing and I HATE IT!!! sorry.

Genocide666 said:

OK I'm a newbie and I don't even have my first grow yet, the spores and in the mail on the way here. No I don't think I know it all and what I do know iv learned from youtube and here. To re-cap a bit you say incubators are not needed.. OK but from what Iv read temps should be in the high 80's to low 90's. I live in a worm area southern CA but even here is gets a bit chilly at night wont that slow growth?

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