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which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms?
    #470377 - 11/26/01 09:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what do you guys think? shrooms seem much easier to me, i'm reading about growing bud, and although it dosen't seem hard, it does seem a lot more complex to grasp for a rookie.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470381 - 11/26/01 09:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

its easy yo grow bud, but the smell is a problem, and i mean a problem, if u grow in ur basement, ur who basement will smell and possibly ur whole house. so get some filter or somethin, because bud will smell ur house up.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: downforpot]
    #470401 - 11/26/01 09:15 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what about an apartment in a complex? i'm not so much worried about the smell as I am just learning to do the right things and not turn some expensive seeds and materials into a waste by fucking up.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470450 - 11/26/01 09:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

dude, u will worry about the smell, 100% guarentee. use seeds from weed u buy, just plant em, ask people around for sites, because theres a lot of info about it on the net.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470463 - 11/26/01 10:02 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

umm yes, get good seeds. why waste your time with inferior product?


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: downforpot]
    #470466 - 11/26/01 10:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

dude, I know there's a lot of information on the net, i've already read a shitload about it..and i'm not gonna use seeds from weed I buy, I want them guarenteed female and wanna know exactly what i'm growing and the precise way to grow it. good seeds are definatly worth the $$, I just gotta know how to grow the shit the right way first..:)


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470481 - 11/26/01 10:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Unfortunately boarder, there is no guarantee that a seed will turn out female; too many things can make a "female" go to male (stress such as lack of water, root damage, burns by heat and chemicals in soil, lack of light, etc, etc, etc.....). So, you might even have the same luck w/ a bag seed if it looks healthy enough. Just watch it when it starts flowering. And look out for hermies too!!!

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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470486 - 11/26/01 10:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

since you've already looked around the net as you have said, i'm fairly sure you've already come across overgrow.com... but if not, check them out, they are the people you should be asking :wink:

oh and imho, shrooms are easier to grow than bud, although i have only read about growing bud and do not have any direct experience so mho doesn't mean much :shocked:


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: JDPhish]
    #470493 - 11/26/01 10:32 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what's a hermie?


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470500 - 11/26/01 10:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

a hermaphrodite. A plant which has pollen sacks and female flowers, not good.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470503 - 11/26/01 10:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I reckon it's easier to grow bud than shrooms. I have harvested some nice bud, But havn't had any luck with shrooms yet (only green mold). Smell is worse when your drying. Keep "PH" levels around 6.5, Lighting for veg growth is 18 hours on 6 hours dark. Lights for flowering is 12 on 12 off. Nothing hard or complex here, Plant a seed and watch it grow. My first grow, I put a seed outside in a pot, Watered it and it grew. did nothing special, No ph adjust, No fertilizers and i ended up with a nice amount of good smoke.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470505 - 11/26/01 10:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Don't limit yourself to one hobbie. They are diffferent products true, each with its own plus and minuses...Weed does smell very strong and takes a longer time from begining to finish, mushrooms are faster which are more prone to infection... Do tons of research, knowledge always beats ingredients, asking a varied question is not for us to answer..You should find what you want and the karma should work with you....


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: geokills]
    #470524 - 11/26/01 11:03 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i've read overgrow quite a bit, it's not nearly as newbie friendly as the shroomey is to shrooms though.
but still, any information is helpful information.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: darkfly]
    #470529 - 11/26/01 11:05 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what's the best way of preventing those darkfly?


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470554 - 11/26/01 11:31 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sometimes it may be caused by stress, but it could be the seed as well. Just toss them with the males if you find any.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: darkfly]
    #470598 - 11/27/01 12:23 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

get SAGE, heheh, best weed, 20 dollars a joint, 20 dollars a seed, and sage isnt fuckin Salvia(i mean salvia is sage but this is somethin else), it stands for sativa afgani somethin somethin, 10 seeds a packet, 200 dollars, want the link? but first try regular shit and see if u can handle it.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: downforpot]
    #470622 - 11/27/01 12:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i've been reading about all those differnt strains of seeds Mark Emery sells...sativa seems like more my type rather than indica. it's harder to grow and takes longer though.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470700 - 11/27/01 01:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

but dude, u will like it, its the shit, i havent tried it yet, because no1 has it yet, but i tried a sativa/indica mix and it is hella good, SAGE is about 2 times better, well it should be, that shit was 1 gram for 20 dollars, all u need is one hit, with sage u take one hit and ur done. but first plan it out, because it will smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470724 - 11/27/01 02:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

An ionizer comes to mind for the smell.. it will remove ALL odor.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: SpiralMix]
    #470762 - 11/27/01 02:23 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

An ionizer will work ok, but if you use it in the grow room your weed will not have a smell either, how about a ozone generater...


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: downforpot]
    #470861 - 11/27/01 05:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sage is a strain from Big Sur,Ca crossed by a haze


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: durban_poison]
    #470902 - 11/27/01 07:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

IMO - Shrooms are ALOT easier to grow...just depends on how good you want ou bud to be. Anyone can toss some bag seed in a pot and give it water & light. Not difficult. BUT, if you want to really grow GOOD bud...it can be fairly complicated. AND DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON EXPENSIVE FEMINIZED SEEDS! They are NOT guaranteed to be female 1st of all, and 2nd you are bound to screw up your first attempt and do you really want to waste the $$$? Want good seeds...go here http://www.seedsdirect.to/frame.html. If you are going to grow bud just start with bagseed til you get the hang of it. When you do order some I recommend some Rooi Bart or an F1 hybrid like Cali sunrise or sumthin. And yes, htp://www.overgrow.com rocks!


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470951 - 11/27/01 10:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Doing both right now. Can tell you that despite the need for cleanliness and worries of contams, Shrooms are easier and far more rewarding to grow.

Of course that could be cuz I've smoked so much that I'm actually bored with pot these days.........


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470978 - 11/27/01 11:18 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

it depends what you want my friend has produced about a pound of northern lights in about four months.(northern lights #5 no smell at all). he also has produced 2 pounds of mushrooms. in about 3 months. ok lets look at they price comparisn. weed about 1500 us dollars for all equiptment. and for mushrooms. about 100 us dollars.note. know ing that he didn't need all of trhat epuiptment for the weed but it made it that much better. the more money you put into growing weed the better product your going to get. there are many different gadgets to make sure of optimal conditiions. trust me you will see. it is not always the same way with mushrooms except the fact of buying flow hoods if you want them.ok from his time spent doing each hobbie. when he was growing weed for four months. i didn't see him much except when i went over there. he was in that room so much he was finding himself wakeing up the next morining in the growroom. people asked why he had sunburn in the middle of winter.when he was growing shrooms he is all over the place i see him everyware. he said he checks them like once a week and when preparing and inncuolateing jars, prepareing casings. takes about 4 to 5 hours out of the four months. so weigh those options. see what ya like better


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #470982 - 11/27/01 11:39 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

cost too much to start growin pot. if you grow the right way that is and invest in metal halide or hps lights, containers, soil, nutrient, paint or reflective material for grow room, and depending on your location and size of your crop you get into co2 and odor eliminators and all that crap. light cycles, and a light proof grow room so light off cycle is completely dark to promote good flowering, etc. etc.
too much hassle growin pot, just go buy a cutie and toke all month!


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: XAZIA]
    #471016 - 11/27/01 12:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

ok i am growing both right now i spent alot of money on a hydro unit and i spent alot on a light. i got 10 female white widow for 100 dallors. only 9 sprouted. but right now there about a week away from harvest. i have about 1 and a 1/2 lbs worth. i am going to sell 1 lb for 3500 and keep the rest for personal. i spent about 1500 on the unit, chem., timers, lighting, and seeds. i will make out but i will say one thing so for the 5 gallon buckets with dirt. fuck the hydro it is a pian in the ass. and it is very expensive. the seeds are worth the money though. there are so many crystles on the shit. anyway i gow both to keep myself happy. both have there ups and downs. smell is not that bad though.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: bigwill]
    #471105 - 11/27/01 02:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Well ive been growing both for almost 12 years. It took me 9 months to pull off my cube harvest. There was no internet at that time. I got my live culture from the fmrc. Steve Peele I think.

It took me three months to grow my first sellable weed. With all the money from weed sales I could buy plenty of mushies. I think weed growing is more fun anyway. You can share it with your friends everyday. www.overgrow.com


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: JDPhish]
    #471130 - 11/27/01 03:10 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Thats true, but acording to Ed rosenthal (High Times/Canabus Cultivator) You can get all female seed from a stressed out female plant that polinates it's self.

When ya get a real good bag of chronic and find only a couple of seeds, the odds are that they are female seed.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Jammer]
    #472021 - 11/28/01 05:38 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've gotta order some of his books Jammer, according to most people I talk to he is the god of growing buds


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: Jammer]
    #472040 - 11/28/01 06:20 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

What Ed really says is that you can get FEMINIZED seeds from hermi plants that started as a female. This does NOT mean you are guarenteed they will be female plants. It is just as likely the plant would turn out to be another hermi, which still has seeds...just not as many. So, Jammer...when "ya get a real good bag of chronic and find only a couple of seeds", chances are that bud your smoking came from a hermi plant. Not a bad thing...still gets ya high...just has a few seeds in it. Still IMO, you are wasting your $$$ buying feminized seeds. You will have a 1:2 male/female ratio with normal seeds which is fine by me. Not to mention, IMO you get better yeilds with normal seeds.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: TwiLiTe420]
    #472100 - 11/28/01 08:31 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i bought 10 white widow and 9 sprouted. all were and still are fem. they will harvest in about a week.


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Re: which is easier to grow (IYO), bud or shrooms? [Re: TwiLiTe420]
    #472683 - 11/28/01 08:03 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Thats not what I recall Ed saying in his classic growing guide (often called "The Bible"). Not all plants are hemprodites. However most any female plant can be stressed to the point of dieing (can be done by hacking the shit off of the growing shoots/buds) and it's instinct to pass the strain on will results in male and female flowers.

As another user has sited here that ALL of the "female" seeds that they purchased were females.... how does anyone produce such a ratio? As far as I know stressing out a female plant is the only way.


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