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formaldehyde box holding my monotubs
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i have a big old box i built out of shitty wood. i use it to store my incubator and my two monotubs. the problem is, it is emitting formaldehyde gas all over the room because the wood is such chinese shit and the heat and moisture from inside are just emitting the shit like crazy! my eyes burn just being in this room its so bad! and i sleep in here! i've been sleeping about 12 hours a night since i got the box, up until the last two nights, where my eyes felt fine and i slept a normal 8 hours, being that i slept downstairs.

1) i'm afraid the exposure will give me/has given me serious health problems (two weeks of exposure w/ levels high enough to burn eyes)

2) is there a way i can save the box? maybe put some kind of vapor-cancelling finish on it, then wrap it in plastic?

3) couldn't really find any appopriate forum for this, but i figure since it has everything to do with growing, and it is a fairly unique problem for all you ppl that have been here for years, it'd be best here.

please help me. i don't want to die.

also anything you know about formaldhyde exposure will help me.


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Edited by beatnicknick (12/04/09 10:26 AM)

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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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Quote:
beatnicknick said:  my eyes burn just being in this room its so bad!


:dudewtf: Toss it.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: Doc_T]
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Throw it away!  Why the fuck would you even consider keeping it if it poses a serious health risk?  C'mon man, use some common sense!


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: kanglow]
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Safety

Occupational exposure to formaldehyde by inhalation is mainly from three types of sources: thermal or chemical decomposition of formaldehyde-based resins, formaldehyde emission from aqueous solutions (for example, embalming fluids), and the production of formaldehyde resulting from the combustion of a variety of organic compounds (for example, exhaust gases). Formaldehyde can be toxic, allergenic, and carcinogenic.[2] Because formaldehyde resins are used in many construction materials it is one of the more common indoor air pollutants.[19] At concentrations above 0.1 ppm in air formaldehyde can irritate the eyes and mucous membranes, resulting in watery eyes.[20] Formaldehyde inhaled at this concentration may cause headaches, a burning sensation in the throat, and difficulty breathing, as well as triggering or aggravating asthma symptoms.[21][22]

The primary exposure concern is for the workers in the industries producing or using formaldehyde. As far back as 1987 the U.S. EPA classified it as a probable human carcinogen and after more studies the WHO International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), in 1995, also classified it as a probable human carcinogen. Further information and evaluation of all known data led the IARC to reclassify formaldehyde as a known human carcinogen [23] associated with nasal sinus cancer and nasopharyngeal cancer, and possibly with leukemia in June 2004[24].

The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) allows no more than 16 ppb formaldehyde in the air in new buildings constructed for that agency.[25] The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has also announced limits on the formaldehyde levels in trailers purchased by that agency.[26] The EPA recommends the use of “exterior-grade” pressed-wood products to limit formaldehyde exposure since pressed-wood products containing formaldehyde resins are often a significant source of formaldehyde in homes.[24].

Formaldehyde can cause allergies and is part of the standard patch test series. People with formaldehyde allergy are advised to avoid formaldehyde releasers as well (e.g., Quaternium-15, imidazolidinyl urea, and diazolidinyl urea).[27] Formaldehyde has been banned in cosmetics in both Sweden and Japan.[citation needed]


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: dancefloordale]
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At least let it air out in the yard for a couple of months.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: Doc_T]
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Time for some phytoremediation!


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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Dude, throw away the box for God's sake. It is NOT worth your health at all, trust me.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: switchy85]
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That's like asking if you should keep a monkey with a crossbow in your room. Get rid of it.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: Breakfast Crew]
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Breakfast Crew said:
That's like asking if you should keep a monkey with a crossbow in your room. Get rid of it.


I wonder if it could figure out how to use it?


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: dancefloordale]
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he could be used as a guard
someone gets too close to your shrooms
he gets an arrow

  -noobie-


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: noobieshroomie]
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i can't get rid of it... it is part of my bed and my project. there's gotta be some kind of primer i can put it on it to prevent the emissions.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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try coating it with polyurethane but the smell from that will kill u so dont stay in the room till it dries.....that should seal the smell in....maybe just my best guess.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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beatnicknick said:
3) couldn't really find any appopriate forum for this, but i figure since it has everything to do with growing, and it is a fairly unique problem for all you ppl that have been here for years, it'd be best here.

please help me. i don't want to die.




:doggull:  You get a Doggull for this post.  Better luck next time. ~P~


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: fig]
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fig said:
try coating it with polyurethane but the smell from that will kill u so dont stay in the room till it dries.....that should seal the smell in....maybe just my best guess.


fig said:
try coating it with polyurethane but the smell from that will kill u so dont stay in the room till it dries.....that should seal the smell in....maybe just my best guess.


fig said:
try coating it with polyurethane but the smell from that will kill u so dont stay in the room till it dries.....that should seal the smell in....maybe just my best guess.


polyurethane... alright i'll definitley give it a shot. if it seals the smell it, it seals the gases in too right? thank you for your advice


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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What can be done to reduce the formaldehyde level?

To minimize formaldehyde, ensure that combustion sources are properly maintained and vented outdoors.  Avoid smoking indoors.

If you are sensitive to formaldehyde, try to avoid products that contain formaldehyde. Durable press fabrics can contain formaldehyde.  Wash the fabric before use.

If you purchase products made of composite wood, you may be able to purchase a floor model where the chemicals, including formaldehyde, have already off-gassed.

Other methods to lower the level of formaldehyde in a home include:

    * Allow products to off-gas:  Before bringing any formaldehyde-containing products into your home, allow them to off-gas outside the home.  Leave the new products in your garage or ask the manufacturer to leave the product unsealed in the warehouse for a few days.
    * Ventilate:  By increasing ventilation you can lower the concentration of formaldehyde.  This may be accomplished by opening windows or bringing in fresh air through a central ventilation system.  Fans can be used to circulate the fresh air.
    * Control the climate:  Formaldehyde is water soluble and reacts to temperature changes.  This means that as the temperature and humidity go up so does the amount of formaldehyde released from a product.  By keeping the temperature and humidity low, you can decrease the amount of formaldehyde off-gassing into the air.

Finally, another less preferable technique is sealing the source of formaldehyde. Formaldehyde containing products may be sealed by using airtight sealers such as oil based paint, polyurethane varnish, shellac, vinyl wallpaper or special sealers. This technique has been used with limited success when there are large areas of exposed pressed-wood products such as those found in cabinets and shelving.  This method is less preferable than those listed above because more new chemicals are introduced into the indoor environment

Edit- You can thank the Minnesota Department of Health for that.


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Edited by dancefloordale (12/04/09 11:19 PM)

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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: dancefloordale]
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Thank you! I have opened all the windows and got the fan going, and though its about 50 degrees in here, things are getting better!


What kind of hazards does polyurethane varnish have? Surely nothing worse then formaldehyde?


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: beatnicknick]
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Um, actually its a pretty nasty neurotoxin :eek:, but only until it dries. Paint it outside, don't breath the fumes and let it dry thoroughly. Dry poly is completely non-toxic and is great for sealing wood.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: myceleus_rex]
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Use some Kilz primer that shit will cover up a lot of smells. I have used it on moldy musty basemants and my dogs room they like to piss on the walls. Covered it right up.


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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: schutzemdown]
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myceleus_rex said:
Um, actually its a pretty nasty neurotoxin :eek:, but only until it dries. Paint it outside, don't breath the fumes and let it dry thoroughly. Dry poly is completely non-toxic and is great for sealing wood.


Alright! IDK if I can paint it outside, but what I can do is open the window, turn on a fan, and seal the door when I have to dry it. How long will that smell linger? Thanks you btw this is the info I was hoping for

schutzemdown said:
Use some Kilz primer that shit will cover up a lot of smells. I have used it on moldy musty basemants and my dogs room they like to piss on the walls. Covered it right up.


It's not the smell it's the toxin... Do the two go hand in hand like that? It would make sense. Like if you can't smell a fart chances are the primer on your butthole sealed in the toxic methane gas as well. Not saying you have primer on your colon, I'm just making a metaphor.

EDIT- What would be the better choice, the polyurethane or the primer? The factors I'm looking at are drying times, overall toxicity, and sealant strength.


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Edited by beatnicknick (12/05/09 09:07 AM)

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Re: formaldehyde box holding my monotubs [Re: noobieshroomie]
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noobieshroomie said:
he could be used as a guard
someone gets too close to your shrooms
he gets an arrow

  -noobie-


Arrow=bow
Crossbow=Bolt


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