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Re: Can you use a Walmart bought Air Purifier - in place of a Laminar Flow Hood? [Re: FooMan]
    #10421485 - 05/29/09 08:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i use a shmuvbox. which is basically a hepa with ionizer in it. with a plastic bag attached to it. ive poured plates, done clones, grain to grain transfers, prints all fine. even made syringes with no problems.

although nothing ghetto is ever going to out do a flowhood. but its a cheap start. it works so good and takes up so little of space. and it has a large work area if you use those big plastic yard bags that ive never turned back.

i keep one hepa unit and i only use it for sterile work. so the filter is only being used maybe once or twice a week. so it can last up to 2 years if not 3. this filter usually lasts about 2 years unless i get a big bust of trich in it. ive had 3 filter cartridges since i bought this thing about 5 years ago for 30 bucks at walmart. and my contam ratio is very little. out of the last year of jars ive only had two batches go bad. one was due to needing to change the filter in the hepa unit for the first time in 2 years. the other was bc the master jar i had, had some trich hiding in it. didn't see it until i forked it from a pf jar to g2g and then the green went everywhere.

so it works well.

and this is the cheapest one at walmart.

damn i was trying to upload more pictures to show you some inside shots and how to set it up. but my picture limit is maxed out. so im going to link you to this thread that explains it a bit more.


here is the text off of what i have posted.

behold the shmuvbox. best invention of the century! credit to molester. its very portable and you can get a larger liner that will allow more work space. right now you can see 20 quart jars WBS  and two BRF  jars in this pic. if you zoom in you can see the two hand holes and the eye hole. the more transparent the bag the better. you won't need the eye hole if the bag is transparent.

this is such a great invention. i sold my flowhood  . i have poured plates, taken clones, made spore syringes, g2g  transfers, you name it, it has been done in this thing. portable, effective, cheap! can't go wrong!

i use a shmuvbox. it is a HEPA  with a big clear trash bag over it, you place all your clean tools, fruits for cloning  , and benzo torch to sterilize your blades in this bag.

usually i will wipe down every single part of this HEPA  with 70-90% rubbing alc. be anal, spray it with disinfectant spray. this thing will pour plates and take clones easily. holmes brand HEPA  filters with a small Ionizer  built in are a great size. you only need a small room size filter. and it should be around 30$ at walmart.

once you put the bag around the filter, tape it down to the table your working on. this will in turn, allow the bag to stay put.

now blow your bag up that has all your cooled utensils and sterile equipment in it.

turn on the HEPA  and when it blows up, cut two holes in it for your hands. one for each. and if you can't find 100% clear lawn bags for the bag, you can cut eye holes as well. this produces positive air pressure and forces out the bad stuff. its real simple, clones can be taken and it stores nicely. its efficient and takes up little space, and hides easily.


anyway, im one ghetto mofo. so i use cheap and easy and stealthy. works wonders for me.

add the cheap 4 to 6 foot table from office depot and you have a nice work area that folds up and is not visible to anyone. the hepa takes up about a 1'cubed area. 1x1x1.

the folding table. folds and sits behind a couch or piece of furniture easily. talk about portability and ease for someone going to go on a hunting foray and then trying to take a clean print in the hotel.

id pick the fruit and put it in a gallon ziplock bag. then go back to the hotel room. set this up on the hotel table and print my wild specimen right in there. or clone what have you...most of the utensils you use for sterile work will pack up real easy. i can get away with a scalpal, a bernzomatic torch, some rubbing alc, disinfectant spray and thats all you need. if you really want a fast clone. you can setup some 9er tek jars and bring your blender with you. it should all fit in a decent size box. excellent. now for flying. may not work with the scalpals. but its perfect for driving to a local or unlocal field a few hundred miles away.

hell now adays exacto knives are cheap. you can just buy one of those crappy cheap ones at the local dollar store. and toss it when your done....even most small towns have dollar stores. not all but many do.

here are some pictures of a setup for clone via 9er tek. should be in the archives here on how to do 9er tek cloning method.


sorry for offsite links. i would upload the pics and illustrate it here. but im at full capacity on pics.

also just to clarify that i mean what i say. ive been using this method for about 5 years now. with less than 3% contam ratio.

at about 2 batches of 10 jars each a week. on a  weekly basis for one year equates to 1040 jars a year given a 52 week year.

20 jars a week times 52 weeks = 1040 jars a year.

out of those 1040 jars. 20 contaminated. and that was a dirty filter.

20contam jars/1040 jars a year =.019. or 1.9%

thats a great contam ratio. just about 2 percent.


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Re: Can you use a Walmart bought Air Purifier - in place of a Laminar Flow Hood? [Re: eatyualive]
    #11742174 - 12/30/09 01:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

interesting post

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