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Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad.
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His approval rating is dropping by the day.  I hate the guy.

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: Coolmo]
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elections have consequences, we deserve him....


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: lonestar2004]
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Really, you're asserting that Barry O. (Barak Obama) is fucking up the country based on public opinion polls? So you're saying that public opinion polls are a valid grading criteria in relation to success? Are you also claiming that those polls are effected more by an honest opinion of his performance, or the statements of political commentators and how the public buys into them? Yes, those are all questions. As much as the commentators would like to tell you that he is fucking up the country, history tells us that we won't have any real idea until his third year in office and beyond.

What I'm clearly trying to point out is that your opinion is just that an opinion and at this stage of the administrative cycle it isn't a very well informed one. Kind of like saying that mushrooms suck before you've had some time to taste a few. You would be better served to educate yourself on issues in the absence of the left and right wingnut commentators. Of course this is a free country and you can proceed however you like.

The False Diviner

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: The False Diviner]
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Why do you assume that people who think he's an incompetent asshole are ill-informed or brainless sheep?  His ineptitude is already well documented.  He can't even staff his administration.

I think that his opinion that Obama is incompetent is quite well-informed, unlike your mindless slavery to the empty suit platitudes that issue endlessly from him and his MSM enablers.  So there.  Who's the sucker, here?  I think you.  Which is most definitely my opinion.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: The False Diviner]
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Im pretty sure that in light of the things he is supporting we can say he is fucking up. He is continuing the same shit the last horrible president was doing. Im not even sure he has a choice in anything he does. He is told what to sell, and im sure he has little choice in the matter. It is his screw up because he goes along with it. He does have his little pet projects, but the real important stuff isn't decided by him. He is just the face. He is a puppet.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Why do you assume that people who think he's an incompetent asshole are ill-informed or brainless sheep?  His ineptitude is already well documented.  He can't even staff his administration.

I think that his opinion that Obama is incompetent is quite well-informed, unlike your mindless slavery to the empty suit platitudes that issue endlessly from him and his MSM enablers.  So there.  Who's the sucker, here?  I think you.  Which is most definitely my opinion.


So, converse to the responded post, those who view Obama poorly are in fact while those who view him positively are ill-informed or sheep?

That was a wonderful acrobatic show of nothing more than reverse assumptions.

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: Redstorm]
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Indeed


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: Kada]
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Here we go again, I ask some questions on how the OP is basing his opinion and assert that it would be better to form an opinion void of the commentator bullshit, and my personal troll zappaisgod can't wait to try and jump my shit. Not a very good try troll. I'm wondering if you can tell the difference between a question and an assumption. Secondly, you and I can debate policy all you want, but it will only result in further trolling and name calling on your part. Try letting the OP answer the questions before you get too exited. He may have more to offer.

Before I let you off the hook on this, let me inform you of a few things. I don't watch TV so including me with any of the wingnut commentators is kind of pointless. It would also be inaccurate on you part to say that I'm mindlessly following anyone's agenda as it should be quite clear that I do not. See, what you didn't here from me is any offer of support for the administration beyond my opinion that its clearly to early to tell. My advising someone to drop the commentators and educate themselves is assuming nothing in regard to there intelligence and only points out the fallacies of the source of information. See I intentionally left out words like dummy and stupid because they were not appropriate. Carry on with all your assumptions about me, I'm sure they will serve you well in you crusade to banish me and my bilge from these boards.

Have a nice day,
The False Diviner

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
zappaisgod said:
Why do you assume that people who think he's an incompetent asshole are ill-informed or brainless sheep?  His ineptitude is already well documented.  He can't even staff his administration.

I think that his opinion that Obama is incompetent is quite well-informed, unlike your mindless slavery to the empty suit platitudes that issue endlessly from him and his MSM enablers.  So there.  Who's the sucker, here?  I think you.  Which is most definitely my opinion.


So, converse to the responded post, those who view Obama poorly are in fact while those who view him positively are ill-informed or sheep?

That was a wonderful acrobatic show of nothing more than reverse assumptions.


Yep, which was my intention.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: zappaisgod]
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The False Diviner said:
Here we go again, I ask some questions on how the OP is basing his opinion and assert that it would be better to form an opinion void of the commentator bullshit, and my personal troll zappaisgod can't wait to try and jump my shit. Not a very good try troll. I'm wondering if you can tell the difference between a question and an assumption. Secondly, you and I can debate policy all you want, but it will only result in further trolling and name calling on your part. Try letting the OP answer the questions before you get too exited. He may have more to offer.


As I have said before and will say again you do not control the debate nor the participants.  Since I find your brand of sophomoric sophistry to be particularly noxious I will join any damn time I feel like it.  Too bad for you.  Just out of curiosity, if I refer to you as a "socialist" do you think I'm calling you a name?
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Before I let you off the hook on this, let me inform you of a few things. I don't watch TV so including me with any of the wingnut commentators is kind of pointless. It would also be inaccurate on you part to say that I'm mindlessly following anyone's agenda as it should be quite clear that I do not. See, what you didn't here from me is any offer of support for the administration beyond my opinion that its clearly to early to tell. My advising someone to drop the commentators and educate themselves is assuming nothing in regard to there intelligence and only points out the fallacies of the source of information. See I intentionally left out words like dummy and stupid because they were not appropriate. Carry on with all your assumptions about me, I'm sure they will serve you well in you crusade to banish me and my bilge from these boards.


I have no desire to banish your bilge, I wish to expose it for what it is.  Nonsense. 

I don't think it is too early to tell that Obumble is fucking up.  He is on a world apology tour that is an international laughingstock, even the fucking French are tougher with our enemies, he has quintupled the deficit and wants to do even more and can't even staff his own administration.  The only thing it is too early to tell about is Afghanistan, which he seems to be punting on but I don't know for sure yet. 

Name something that you think he is doing well.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Like I said before, I think its to early to call the administration a success or failure.

You can label my ideas anyway you want, socialist is not very offending.

Just for fun lets see how he's doing with his campaign promises. Of the 515 that I'm counting, he has not started working on 340. So that equates to getting started on 33.6% less than 25% into his term. I'm going to say not bad, and hope the trend continues. Of the 175 he has started taking action on 100 are in the works. The remaining 75 are done or hopelessly stalled.  Of these he has kept his promise or come up with a working compromise 66 of these promises roughly 88%. He broke his promises on 7 or 9%, and has stalled out on 12 or 16%. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, as far as campaign promises so far so good.

The False Diviner

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Name something that you think he is doing well.


To the above list of inadequacies I would point out that he has met with Gen McChrystal exactly once, by video teleconference.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/28/once/
Meanwhile, he is currently in Copenhagen trying to get the Olympian money pit to come to his adopted cesspool of graft and corruption, Chicago.  Imagine all the lulus that will get passed around if that happens.  They won't have enough envelopes to stuff the cash into.

I sure do wish he really was President of Chicago.  Then we could laugh at him.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Your debate strategy is interesting. You ask me to name something that I think he is doing well in. I answer with he's doing OK on the campaign promises and put up some numbers. You retort with something about a list of inadequacies, not having enough meetings with Gen. McChrystal, and the Olympics. Good luck with sticking to that strategy and having any success.

Have a nice day,
The False Diviner

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: The False Diviner]
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The False Diviner said:
Your debate strategy is interesting. You ask me to name something that I think he is doing well in. I answer with he's doing OK on the campaign promises and put up some numbers. You retort with something about a list of inadequacies, not having enough meetings with Gen. McChrystal, and the Olympics. Good luck with sticking to that strategy and having any success.



He's doing OK on his campaign promises?  Which ones?  The left-o-sphere seems to be rather pissed that he is actually sucking and reneging on too many of his promises.  What ass did you pull that "515" total campaign promises and the other numbers out of anyway?  You got a list somewhere?  Or a link?

I can't make an additional point regarding his inadequacies? 

Since you can't seem to follow a point too far removed from the last sentence I'll ask again with an addendum.  "What do you think he is doing well at, specifically?"  I'm going to keep asking until you come up with some specific.  And oh yeah, that isn't a debate.  It is a simple question.  If you ever answer it we may have a debate.  Until then I find it impossible to debate a trembling bowl of Jell-o.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: The False Diviner]
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The False Diviner said:
Like I said before, I think its to early to call the administration a success or failure.

You can label my ideas anyway you want, socialist is not very offending.

Just for fun lets see how he's doing with his campaign promises. Of the 515 that I'm counting, he has not started working on 340. So that equates to getting started on 33.6% less than 25% into his term. I'm going to say not bad, and hope the trend continues. Of the 175 he has started taking action on 100 are in the works. The remaining 75 are done or hopelessly stalled.  Of these he has kept his promise or come up with a working compromise 66 of these promises roughly 88%. He broke his promises on 7 or 9%, and has stalled out on 12 or 16%. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, as far as campaign promises so far so good.

The False Diviner



Socialist is not very offending?  Is that a dodge? 

We can not camp out in Afghanistan.  The puppet-clown is a media whore that is more concerned about his image than anything else.  Afghanistan is one of the worst places strategically in the world to occupy.  That place was the U.S.S.R.'s Vietnam.  Alexander the Great had enough sense to get the fuck out of there after just a couple years.  Fighting against local guerrilla fighters with conventional forces degenerates into a fucking bloodbath and a logistical nightmare quickly. Never, ever, underestimate the homefield advantage in war.

I have no respect for O'bumble because his is a socialist clown with no understanding of economics or international relations. 


  The asshole does not care about this country as he is more self absorbed than a valley girl prom queen.  He is not qualified to be a dog-catcher in Chicago. "Less than worthless" I think sums him up nicely.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: Mr.Al]
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> What ass did you pull that "515" total campaign promises and the other numbers out of anyway?  You got a list somewhere?  Or a link?

I assume he is using http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ or something like it. 

> Name something that you think he is doing well.

Creating debt.  He seems to be doing an excellent job there.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
elections have consequences, we deserve him....



I don't. I didn't vote. It's because I didn't like any of the candidates. I don;t vote even on a city level because there is nothing but corruption in local and national government.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: djmako7]
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djmako7 said:
lonestar2004 said:
elections have consequences, we deserve him....



I don't. I didn't vote. It's because I didn't like any of the candidates.



Exactly!

thanks for helping us get a 'Wise Latina' permanently in the scotus....


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Exactly!

thanks for helping us get a 'Wise Latina' permanently in the scotus....



LOL Obama appointed her nobody voted her. She came from san gabriel and I didnt live there so I couldnt vote for local government.

This government is not permanent. 2012 elections will be change.

But if you look at our last president that was voted in for 2 terms it probably wont get better. Civilians have no control over the government The government controls us.

Once again this quote can be utilized.

"How fortunate for the governments that the people they administer do not think" - Adolf Hitler

I think and my thought is to over throw the American Government but that's just me.


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Re: Barry O. is fucking up the country pretty bad. [Re: djmako7]
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> LOL Obama appointed her nobody voted her

Actually, you voted for her when you threw your presidential vote away because you were to lazy to do something with it.  You could have made a difference by voting for a third party candidate.  One of the few things lower than an Obama apologist is a person that will only vote for the winner of an election.


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