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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
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jonnyjonjonjon said:
TeamAmerica said:
I also had a very strange experience a couple of weeks ago...

My God mother was visiting my mom, so I came to visit them, while I was sitting down after we met I was reading a book, and my godmother started talking to me.

After she was done, she bent down and whispered in my ear,

"We trained your mind,"

and then she walked out.

To this day it was so strange, I simply do not know what to think...

Anyone else experience something similar?


No. Thats a mad one. What book were you reading?




I was reading my 'Nag Hammadi Scriptures"

basically gnostic christian texts...

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: TeamAmerica]
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TeamAmerica said:
I also had a very strange experience a couple of weeks ago...

My God mother was visiting my mom, so I came to visit them, while I was sitting down after we met I was reading a book, and my godmother started talking to me.

After she was done, she bent down and whispered in my ear,

"We trained your mind,"

and then she walked out.

To this day it was so strange, I simply do not know what to think...

Anyone else experience something similar?



Well, it's true to a great extent.
If you follow someones family tree back, with major events, like divorce, alcoholism, abuse, etc. you will witness a pretty strong patterning. Be it genetics, or the social values that are passed from parent to child to child's child, we share a lot with our family in terms of behavior.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Kickle]
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See there is a psychological barrier between people, all of our problems anywhere are psychological


a very broad and vague statement. clarify?

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Until you have a chance to be on the other side of the human psychological barrier, you can joke about it all you want, but it really isn't funny at all...


yeah it is. you have no sense of humor, an inflated ego and existential angst. sounds juvenile.


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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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Words cant really accurately convey the experience. So much is lost in translation, in the parts I purposefully left out.

I believe these small groups of humans exist all over the world; they are the travelers unconfined by space and time.
The ones who havent been tricked into thinking magick isnt real.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:
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See there is a psychological barrier between people, all of our problems anywhere are psychological


a very broad and vague statement. clarify?

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Until you have a chance to be on the other side of the human psychological barrier, you can joke about it all you want, but it really isn't funny at all...


yeah it is. you have no sense of humor, an inflated ego and existential angst. sounds juvenile.



And posting in threads that you have no emotional connection to, just to discredit and disrupt is not juvenile?



GET THE FUCK OUT

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: TeamAmerica]
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how arrogant. just by not agreeing with you i get insulted :confused: ?


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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:
how arrogant. just by not agreeing with you i get insulted :confused: ?



And you weren't asking for it?

And now you plead innocence after being addressed? Like you were not insulting all of us with your useless posts?

"Get the fuck out" was a request

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: TeamAmerica]
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calm down mkay
my posts were very useful, don't be jealous, thats a request by me for youuuuu


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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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I probably have TA ignored for a reason.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: TeamAmerica]
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TeamAmerica said:
b0red5tiff said:




As funny as that is, people since the 60's have been thinking that exact thought.

See there is a psychological barrier between people, all of our problems anywhere are psychological
b0red5tiff said:




It's funny until you realize that some peoples minds are literally automatically controlled by a source not of their own consciousness.

And its not just some people, its most people, wether it is their fault or not, is what we are discussing.

Until you have a chance to be on the other side of the human psychological barrier, you can joke about it all you want, but it really isn't funny at all...





Do you think with words?


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Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
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I try not to think with words...it leads to self doubt and hesitation.
Cant help it sometimes.

Few know their true will. I have to purge powerful demons to know mine.
Dragging them out in the light may shock some people, but in the end for me it is necessary.

Tis far better to know you are being controlled than to be oblivious to the fact that you are being controlled.
At least then you gain a little control over the matter.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
I try not to think with words...it leads to self doubt and hesitation.
Cant help it sometimes.

Few know their true will. I have to purge powerful demons to know mine.
Dragging them out in the light may shock some people, but in the end for me it is necessary.

Tis far better to know you are being controlled than to be oblivious to the fact that you are being controlled.
At least then you gain a little control over the matter.


Thought everyone did but I found out there a while ago that its only the minority of people that think in pictures. Its a much more effective way of thinking I recommend you start doing it cuz thinking in words implies your thinking can only be as complete as your vocabulary. Start assigning pictures to every word and it'll start coming naturally to you. When you think about it words converted into sound is a linear thing that takes time which adds up. Pictures come instantaneously and theres so many shapes, colors, and actions to add to them that you can fit into a single picture what may take 15,000 words. Its really thinking in all 5 senses but pictures are the primary representation system rather than words.

I have no inner dialogue unless I'm rehearsing something to say so I think that probably makes me void of a lot of the societally based mental programming. With pictures you can add sounds, tastes, smells, colors, tactile sensations etc. to your "words" to make them even more effective.

Definitely better to know when theres external control factors. Better yet know that you can circumvent a shitload of it by doing certain things. Language is something to be careful of. Its a means of communicating ideas not for thinking. I was reading this article about NLP and couldn't figure out what the hell they were talking about then it became clear to me. Some people think in words. Of course ones thinking would be confined by their language if they use that very language to think.


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Edited by jonnyjonjonjon (09/08/09 03:09 AM)

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
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I originally thought in pictures until I trained myself rather stupidly to talk to myself.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Ive been thinking about our connection to language and the effect on us it has...


Aren't all thoughts pretty much speaking to your self? It got me thinking, who exactly are we talking to...and why do we need to speak in English?

That also got me thinking, that everything comes as a some kind of subconscious urge of understanding, that can only be expressed partly in words through thought.
Do you ever get the feeling like you already understand something perfectly, you just don't have the right words to display it.

Maybe all language is a trap, and not until we start operating on the true imagery, or true meaning, we can start thinking with subconscious wisdom instead of the wisdom relying on symbols to comfort some "ego-beast" that is lost from trying to deal with all of these powerful thoughts arising to our less understanding and more controllable 'monkey' mind.

Ive really gotten into understanding how much we project feeling and memory onto things, and this includes anything.

Try looking at the color pink...what's the first thought? Girly maybe? but its just a color. If you view it as girly, you are projecting that... try staring at it until its simply a color, can you do it? if that doesnt give a good example...

How about takeing  3 double u's "VVVVVV" you can view these as 6 v's or 3 w's depending on what you project onto it.

Does that make sense, this can apply to anything...


:etbig:
meh,

ramble on....

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I suppose this is the more appropriate spot for this:


Are women real? Are most people we encounter, real? :confused:
Or I suppose more specifically, organic? Alive??
I had a very powerful trip the other night out camping, and I'm really trying to unravel a bit.
Insight is appreciated....

On the dream emissary:
"What is the dreaming emissary?"
"Alien energy that has concisness. Alien energy that purports to aid dreamers by telling them things. The problem with the dreaming emissary is that it can tell only what the sorcerers already know, were they worth their salt."
"To say that it's alien energy that has concisness doesn't help me at all, don Juan. What kind of energy--benign, malignant, right, wrong, what?"
"It's just what I said, alien energy. An impersonal force that we turn into a very personal one because it has a voice. Some sorcerers swear by it. They even see it. Or, as you yourself have done, they simply hear it as a man's or a woman's voice. And the voice can tell them about the state of things, which most of the time they take as sacred advice."
"Why do some of us hear it as a voice?"
"We see it or hear it because we maintain our assemblage points fixed on a specific new position; the more intense this fixation, the more intense our experience of the emissary. Watch out! You may see it and feel it as a naked woman."
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"Is its advice safe and sound?"
"It cannot be advice. It only tells us what's what, and then we draw the inferences ourselves."

Now, what does that sound like to you? To me, it sounds like a mirror. An inorganic mirror. Or, if you want to use more mystical and magickal terms, the Moon. The Moon is the mirror of the Sun. It reflects the light and energy that is given off by the Sun, but produces none of its own.

The Moon is female... I've had my share of experiences which confirm this analogy.
With that in mind, read on...

"On one occasion, a scout guided me very roughly through countless tunnels, as if searching for something, or as if it were trying to draw all my energy out and exhaust me. By the time it finally stopped, I felt as if I had run a marathon. I seemed to be at the edge of that world. There were no more tunnels, only blackness all around me. Then something lit up the area right in front of me; there, light shone from an indirect source. It was a subdued light that rendered everything diffusely gray or brownish. When I became used to the light, I vaguely distinguished some dark, moving shapes. After a while, it seemed to me that focusing my dreaming attention on those moving shapes made them substantial. I noticed that there were three types: some of them were round, like balls; others were like bells; and others yet like gigantic, undulating candle flames. All of them were basically round and the same size. I judged that they were three to four feet in diameter. There were hundreds, perhaps even thousands of them.... At the level where we were, it seemed to me that there was a commonality between the shadow entities and myself: size."

"Perhaps it was because I judged them to be the same size as my energy body that I felt almost cozy with them. On examining them, I concluded that I did not mind them at all. They were impersonal, cold, detached, and I liked that immensely. I wondered for an instant whether my disliking them one minute and liking them the next was a natural consequence of dreaming or a product of some energetic influence those entities were exerting on me. "They are most likable," I said to the emissary, at the very moment I was overpowered by a wave of profound friendship or even affection for them. No sooner had I spoken my mind than the dark shapes scurried away, like bulky guinea pigs, leaving me alone in semidarkness."

""This is the shadows' world," the emissary's voice said as soon as I was there. "But, even though we are shadows, we shed light. Not only are we mobile but we are the light in the tunnels. We are another kind of inorganic being that exists here. There are three kinds: one is like an immobile tunnel, the other is like a mobile shadow. We are the mobile shadows. The tunnels give us their energy, and we do their bidding.""

More discussion of shadows. The shadows of the living... the inorganics. The illusions, perhaps? The Bible describes the creation of Adam, yet, Eve was nothing but a creation OF Adam. A piece of him. Basically, I'm asking, are Women simply our mirrors? That which helps us to see what we're emitting? That which allows us to observe ourselves? For they have nothing of their own to emit?

Sorry if this offends your sentiments, but take them as they are... thoughts. Thoughts that were stirred up within me. Being one with God makes me wonder if the inorganics want nothing more than our power. Our life. For without it, they are nothing but an empty mirror.

I've heard told that the original sin was Adam tasting of Eve's fruit, if you get what I mean. That he willfully gave Eve some of his life, and in doing so, perpetuated the dream. Now, I'm not so found of this version, because it paints a bad picture on the whole life thing, but it does make me wonder. What is conception? If one is alive, and the other not, what are we doing? We're creating a reflection of life... over and over and over again. Repeatedly. Perhaps there is only one way to end the dream... to return to the Garden of Eden. To return to paradise. And that is by stopping the reflection of sin.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Kickle]
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but MAYBE...


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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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One of my earliest memories as a child, like around 4 or 5 years old, I used to think everyone except me was a robot. I imagined when my family wasn't around me that they would have to change these huge d cell batteries that were hidden in their backs. Haven't thought about this since i was really young, wow. Damn i thought about some weird shit.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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but maybe your Mom is a really nice lady. I know mine is :heart:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Littles]
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Littles said:
One of my earliest memories as a child, like around 4 or 5 years old, I used to think everyone except me was a robot. I imagined when my family wasn't around me that they would have to change these huge d cell batteries that were hidden in their backs. Haven't thought about this since i was really young, wow. Damn i thought about some weird shit.


I thought that too. This is common among children that age.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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it seems we have a winner

congrats, living in confabulation will only get you as far as god, but theeen...

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