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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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like i said.. its all a bunch of lies :smile:

certain people on this planet believed it.. and took it upon themselves to establish order through control and fear.
i think they dont have direct access .. they are not allowed to contact us directly.. physically.

they do it through us.
in your case.. it is simply so you would spread a message to a couple more individuals out there fearfully stumbling across your post.

in the case of already powerful people on this planet.. they are lessons of manipulation and power over others.


nevertheless..
i dont have a negative outlook..

neither do i have 'hope'

i simply know... that everything will be just fine.
and even it isnt so...
that is how we make it so.

no fear.

once you connect with the creative spirit... a wall of light will appear around your being grabbing all the negative information that isnt of it , and just converting it into a positive lesson.
love... just WONT allow it.

Quote:
How do we oust the controllers; the programmers; the ones who make us sin?


we cry for them..


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
No, you were tripping. Your perception of reality was severely altered by the substance you ingested.

That's all there is to it. Don't take any stock in it because it wasn't real.

Everyone that has taken substances like psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, etc... has had weird thoughts or altered perception of reality. It doesn't make it true.


How can something not be real?  How can something not exist(addressing the original post)?  Everything one experiences, consciously or not, is a part of one's reality.  I do not see how altering the brain chemistry by ingesting a substance eliminates the validity of any experience.  Some things encountered may not fit properly within what can be considered the "consensus reality", but just because a perception is shared by the majority does not necessarily make it any more valid in the court of Maat.

"Within the province of the mind, what I believe to be true is true or becomes true, within the limits to be found experientially and experimentally.  These limits are further beliefs to be transcended" -John Lilly

Or, "nothing is true, everything is permitted". 0=2 and 2=0.


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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: lavod]
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I wonder if all of this "matrix" theory would have ever existed if it weren't for those movies.

:smilingpuppy:


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Same thing happened to me when I played Neil Armstrong in Moonshot. They found me in an alley in Burbank trying to re-enter the earth's atmosphere in an old refrigerator box.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: lavod]
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lavod said:
WakeboardrB said:
No, you were tripping. Your perception of reality was severely altered by the substance you ingested.

That's all there is to it. Don't take any stock in it because it wasn't real.

Everyone that has taken substances like psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, etc... has had weird thoughts or altered perception of reality. It doesn't make it true.


How can something not be real?  How can something not exist(addressing the original post)?  Everything one experiences, consciously or not, is a part of one's reality.  I do not see how altering the brain chemistry by ingesting a substance eliminates the validity of any experience.  Some things encountered may not fit properly within what can be considered the "consensus reality", but just because a perception is shared by the majority does not necessarily make it any more valid in the court of Maat.

"Within the province of the mind, what I believe to be true is true or becomes true, within the limits to be found experientially and experimentally.  These limits are further beliefs to be transcended" -John Lilly

Or, "nothing is true, everything is permitted". 0=2 and 2=0.


Well it's obviously impossible to argue the point since you set the boundaries far out in the realm of the impossible.

What I'm saying is that when you alter your perception with hallucinogenic substances, your thought patterns tend to run towards the realm of fantasy, rather than reality.

I ate an 8th of mushrooms and 2 hits of LSD one time and I firmly believed that I could communicate with and read the thoughts of squirrels.

Another time I believed that a horse at my friends farm was controlling my thoughts.

Doesn't make it true? Absolutely not. It just means I was tripping my balls off and my thoughts were obviously not planted within the realm of reality.


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Same thing happened to me when I played Neil Armstrong in Moonshot. They found me in an alley in Burbank trying to re-enter the earth's atmosphere in an old refrigerator box.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: WakeboardrB]
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I remember seeing a building form out of nothing, it was a sparkling palace. Inside the palace was some sorta promise land but I was not allowed entrance at the gates yet.
I remember I was not allowed to continue through any part of the path unless I had pure intentions.

What was amazing about the experience was so long as I believed in it 100% so did others.

Example: On part of the trip I believed through in though that I was famous. In believing I was famous others did too. They said "Is that him?" "its really him!" "hes really talking to us" and shit like that. I dont know who they thought I was but they thought I was someone. This further convinced me I was famous.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
I wonder if all of this "matrix" theory would have ever existed if it weren't for those movies.

:smilingpuppy:



Where do you think the movie directors got the idea?

:donniedarko:

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
We are like zoo animals to them and they create "habitats" they believe to be reminescent of our natural ones back where we originated from.



Ive had the same experience. Trippy to say the least.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: DimensionX]
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Its all coming together now.

Early in the trip I saw a dead spider. I succeeded in bringing that dead spider back to life. Later in the trip I was able to heal people and myself with the energies. I learned that any illness/ailment could be repaired through faith.

The whole of the trip was like Battlefield Earth; written by L Ron Hubbard.

Researching Scientology a little more Im learning that theyve experienced this faith healing too.

Perhaps Mr.Hubbard is onto something.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
Its all coming together now.

Early in the trip I saw a dead spider. I succeeded in bringing that dead spider back to life. Later in the trip I was able to heal people and myself with the energies. I learned that any illness/ailment could be repaired through faith.

The whole of the trip was like Battlefield Earth; written by L Ron Hubbard.

Researching Scientology a little more Im learning that theyve experienced this faith healing too.

Perhaps Mr.Hubbard is onto something.


there's a certain degree of cautiousness that needs to be practiced when you're ingesting mind altering substances. you seem to be so frustrated and scatterbrained by your own existence that you're willing to accept baseless fiction for truth.

i have a cure for your existential conundrum, guaranteed to work. give away all of your possessions, reject your shroomy philosophical wish-wash, and move to the slums of dharavi in mumbai, india or even the townships surrounding johannesburg and cape town near where you live.

i'm sure after a few nights of sleeping under a bridge scavenging for trash to survive, like most of the people who don't live in your cozy mushroom fantasy world, you'll soon realize that you along with everyone else on this planet are very real.

or maybe you can show up and use your perceptual powers to free the third world of it's plight. after all, if you look at a wall and believe there is a door, what's stopping you from looking at a slum and willing electricity, sanitation, and nutritional food for everyone?

you can't do that. not in OUR world.

-the dopest one.


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in general, i'm not sure if i'm indecisive or not.

Edited by dopestone (09/06/09 10:19 PM)

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: dopestone]
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Dont preach that to me; I was homeless for over a year. Ive eaten out of plenty of trashcans and slept under more than a couple of bridges.

The people I believe to be the real ones are the drifters who arent confined to a physical space.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
Dont preach that to me; I was homeless for over a year. Ive eaten out of plenty of trashcans and slept under more than a couple of bridges.

The people I believe to be the real ones are the drifters who arent confined to a physical space.


you're missing my point. try again.

do you believe that you are one of the real people? or an automaton?


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in general, i'm not sure if i'm indecisive or not.

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: dopestone]
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Interesting...I had a dream a couple days ago that is reminicient of this. 

I was walking in the dream, but very tired, exhausted, like I could hardly keep my eyes open.  I stumbled into a room that had people in it, but I couldn't see them, only hear them.  Someone gave me a drink with something in it and told me to drink it.  I asked why, and they told me, "Because you keep waking up to the true reality and we need you to drink this in order to forget again." 

I said something to the effect that it wasn't right to do this to me, and a womans voice said, "You cannot do that to a such a pure soul."  At which point another woman laughed with derision, tall and white with an english accent and said to man as she handed him a piece of paper, "Here is his deed."

In the dream I fell asleep and as I fell asleep in the dream I began to awaken here, but very very slowly.  I was hesitant to open my eyes and had the feeling that my body was materializing in this waking reality.  When I opened my eyes I was not sure what I would find when I did.  That is how real the dream seemed to be.


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What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?  And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I don't know about the ability to heal physical wounds, but the ability to heal mental ones in others and yourself can be immense.

I once had an experience where i thought i was receiving messages that i was in a zoo and that humans like me were an endangered species. I thought many of the people around me were the "zoo keepers" such as they were. I thought they were super advanced humans and i was sort of like a neanderthal among homo saipiens. I don't really adhear to this belief anymore, but i find it very interesting that we had such similar experiences.

Edited by DimensionX (09/07/09 06:10 AM)

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
Ive had this theory recently after a very startling experience.

What if there is a very small group of real humans left on the earth and the rest are just automatons?
I believe these humans to be the "true family" descended from the twelve tribes.

Basically what Ive ntoiced is that we live in something like the Matrix.

The whole world around those of us who are real is altered based upon our preceptions of it.

If I believe a wall to be a door the wall becomes a door.

Like lucid dreaming however; I have to believe in this 100%.

I hacked and glitched out reality so they took away my powers.

We are like zoo animals to them and they create "habitats" they believe to be reminescent of our natural ones back where we originated from.

These alien tourists sometimes disguise themselves as humans to observe us, or look down from above. Sometimes we are abducted and experimented on.

If ever we find out too much about the truth they whipe out our memories or put enough holes in our theories that no one will believe us.

They like to watch how the humans interact with eachother and use the programmed automatons to invalidate their theories.


Interesting shit. I know someone whos convinced that half the population are automations. I've done a fair bit of lucid dreaming too and I've seen how even a shred of doubt will prevent you from doing things outta the ordinary. For all I know the same could apply in everyday life. If its that hard to overcome doubt in a dream imagine how hard it is in real life.

I've pondered this same thought of us being caged animals by things beyond our perception many a time. If we put a fish in a fishbowl when you think about it thats a very fucked up thing we're doing to the fish because we're confining it to a physical reality it has no chance of escaping. We keep animals locked in cages which is fairly fucked up for the animals too. Can you elaborate a bit of how you glitched reality?

Society itself is like a factory for programmed automations. Heres an unusual site I came across once
http://www.geocities.com/freeyourbrain


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Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.

Edited by jonnyjonjonjon (09/07/09 08:13 AM)

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I've had similar philosophical revelations while tripping on LSD. The only major difference is that I've felt like I'm the only being in existence and that I created this universe/ reality to hide my own identity from myself. I basically felt like I was God and that I was truly the only real being in existence. I had never felt so lonely in my life.


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Turn off your mind, relax and floatdown stream. It is not dying. Lay down all thought, surrender to the void. It is shining.
:darkside: Pink Floyd :darkside:

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: NlightNd1]
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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: jivJaN]
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Poid said:



jivJaN said:
well.. i dont know exactly what happened to you..
but your message does resemble those messages of despair frequently thrown around by negatively oriented entities.
the message is
1. we are in control
2. we are actually.. just playing a game with you, because.. we created you.. so its ok.
3. there is nothing you can do about it
4. feel like shit
5. .. oh.. and be sure to tell everyone else so they can feel like you

6. (which they never tell you)  - these messages are actually how we play the game...
hahahahahah
and were lying
bahahahahahahaahah
ur so stupid
:rofl:


no harm done i think..
dont think about that shit
thats how you bring it to you.
i know that its probably hard to stop thinking about it..
ya know.. in a sense... you'll never really know whether its you actually thinking about it.

perhaps someone else can give you insight on how to handle the negative information, constantly nagging you and bugging you into paranoid thoughts of doom.
i know .. that there really is nothing to frightened of , which doesnt mean that i dont get scared..

but when i do.. i just consider it a lie... that i believed.
its really all you.. even if and when your dealing with an external entity


Thought about that too if thoughts alter reality then believing we're encapsulated wouldn't do much good. I managed to think my way out of the 2nd dimension on salvia so I saw how self confined limited reality works. You can struggle with it for what seems like days and eventually something happens and your free and its funny shit because you find out it was your own mind you were struggling against the whole time.

I've had some weird dreams similar to salvia trips where I get tricked into playing a game of pacman and I forget that its just a game I end up thinking this 2D game of pacman is reality and the whole time I have this pain in my back but the logic of a game of pacman cannot explain something happening to my back obviously since thats in the third dimension. Actually the last dream like this I remember there was someone telling me to keep playing the game until I finished it and it was my impulse to try finish the game but the fucked up thing was there was just no end to the game. Pacman was moving in zigzags for some reason and getting me aggitated. A fairly thought provoking dream that was. Maybe lifes ordinary pursuits are a waste of time and its only things involving consciousness expansion that I should be concerned with. I have no idea what this life thing is but aiming for at least getting a glimpse of the 4th dimension seems like a wise pursuit in my opinion. Who knows maybe when we see it we wont feel like coming back to 3d reality. After all 4d has 3d within it.


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Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.

Edited by jonnyjonjonjon (09/07/09 08:55 AM)

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:




As funny as that is, people since the 60's have been thinking that exact thought.

See there is a psychological barrier between people, all of our problems anywhere are psychological
b0red5tiff said:




It's funny until you realize that some peoples minds are literally automatically controlled by a source not of their own consciousness.

And its not just some people, its most people, wether it is their fault or not, is what we are discussing.

Until you have a chance to be on the other side of the human psychological barrier, you can joke about it all you want, but it really isn't funny at all...



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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I also had a very strange experience a couple of weeks ago...

My God mother was visiting my mom, so I came to visit them, while I was sitting down after we met I was reading a book, and my godmother started talking to me.

After she was done, she bent down and whispered in my ear,

"We trained your mind,"

and then she walked out.

To this day it was so strange, I simply do not know what to think...

Anyone else experience something similar?

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Re: Only a small amount of humans really exist [Re: TeamAmerica]
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TeamAmerica said:
I also had a very strange experience a couple of weeks ago...

My God mother was visiting my mom, so I came to visit them, while I was sitting down after we met I was reading a book, and my godmother started talking to me.

After she was done, she bent down and whispered in my ear,

"We trained your mind,"

and then she walked out.

To this day it was so strange, I simply do not know what to think...

Anyone else experience something similar?


No. Thats a mad one. What book were you reading?


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Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.

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