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Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior
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(to my mind), From a timely Western standpoint:

If someone "catches me" taking a nude stroll through the rain, I am instantly subjected to verbal insults or police arrest, probably scrutinizing looks at the least.

Conversely, an obese man drinking beer and riding a machine that is exclusively manufactured to keep herbaceous monocotyledons (aka grass) at an ambiguously tasteful height is perfectly acceptable. People pass right by this person, perhaps even waving in mutual kid-raising, wive-fucking agreement.

The democratic idea of "the public" presupposes (suggestively?) cultural ideas and uniformity among all of the citizens, and with this contends that the collective output of the people will reflect--and more or less equal--the values of the individual. Everyone goes to the mall home happy.

So, what is the origination of acceptable behavior versus taboo behavior? I don't want to fragment this by delving too deeply into hive culture or conformity. I'm just curious how much of our behavioral/social values/norms are sociobiological as opposed to malleable.


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Re: Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior [Re: Arden]
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You're a fucking onion, OK?




A (somewhat relative) graph showing some of the constituting variables, including where some animals and primates fall. It lists the specific processes but still doesn't account for the actual origin of the processes, the content of transmission, or any change/fluctuation.


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Re: Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior [Re: Arden]
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Nice post.  I feel that a good deal of taboo programming can be linked to the "oral bio-survival" circuit(R.A.W elucidated upon this quite well in "prometheus rising") and its stronghold on personality on many well into adulthood.  This influence on the individual is reflected on society to a profound degree.  I'd say that far more people seek acceptance and have infophobic traits than there are misanthropic rebels.

Compare police and the justice system to the classic 2 parent family structure(especially the archetypal mother figure) in regards to absurd taboo.  I'd say that much of taboo is highly arbitrary, merely serving as the metal used by those with a strong 1st circuit influence to make cages.


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Re: Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior [Re: lavod]
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That last graph is pretty cool.

But in your example, that someone could be one in ten witnesses. The rest may be anywhere from excited, to bemused to nonreactive, to not annoyed enough to take action. It's that one person that screws it up. It is against the law, so the police are obliged to investigate. Assuming the law was intended to curtail blatant sexuality, the nude stroller gets covered in the blanket law. It could be argued that nude strolling could excite sexuality in the viewers, and therefore is not simply covered, but targeted in the blanket law.

There are two factors I would consider. One is that traditionally, sexual repression was beneficial to society, doing the best they could not to spread STDs. Also, the repression of sexuality could be considered a parallel to the biological functions of jealousy and "ownership" issues.

IOW, you can't go for a nude walk because you're dirty and unethical :lol: and you would get some people all hot and bothered in some way or another.


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Re: Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior [Re: Rahz]
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I'd say that far more people seek acceptance and have infophobic traits than there are misanthropic rebels



I would also agree (infophobic = cool term), but I also think there needs to be a definitive middle-ground whereby an individual can avoid conforming but is not considered a rebel by doing so, particularly because there is no hatred or malicious intent involved, as opposed to some forms of public dissent.

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But in your example, that someone could be one in ten witnesses.



That's true. There would likely be a variety of responses, depending on the time, place, and the witnesses. I was generally trying to convey a repulsive or condemnatory reaction. And specifically, I was trying to convey a situation where an individual's behavior was judged not on its own, but rather in comparison to the group's expected norm (e.g. a penis in the place of an umbrella).

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Re: Natural Behavior vs Abnormal Behavior [Re: Arden]
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Abnormal behavior:  An inflexible, maladaptive pattern of behavior that causes distress or impaired functioning and differs significantly from the patterns expected in ones cultural norms.

I would say that definition is quite vague, but "abnormal behavior" is quite vague.  I think it depends on who is catching you dancing around naked in the rain... what is abnormal to one, may be quite acceptable to another, even of the same culture.  :shrug:

Arden said:
You're a fucking onion, OK?




A (somewhat relative) graph showing some of the constituting variables, including where some animals and primates fall. It lists the specific processes but still doesn't account for the actual origin of the processes, the content of transmission, or any change/fluctuation.





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