Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  [ show all ]
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: showme]
    #10851863 -

without spirituality we are just animals. life becomes meaningless, there is no point to living.

What a load of crap. :thumbdown: However I do agree that we are "just" animals.

Spirituality is just another aspect of death anxiety IMO. There is really no evidence of "spirit". Except for true believers who don't know how to interpret their psychedelic experiences that is.:satansmoking:


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: showme]
    #10852019 -

showme said:
Life is tragic when it is meaningless.


"poems in the ancient world were classified as High ("Tragedy") or Low ("Comedy"). Low poems had happy endings and were of everyday or vulgar subjects, while High poems were for more serious matters."- Divine Comedy- Wiki

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: showme]
    #10852096 -

Quote:
without spirituality we are just animals. life becomes meaningless, there is no point to living.


Maybe for you, but please don't try to push this crap on anyone else.


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #10852243 -

Did you feel like he was trying to push it on you? :shrug:

I love how Icelander went from admitting the existence of the formless Tao, then says that 'spirit' is a load of crap... :lol:

Thats not a poke at you, i really love how it happened

:peace:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Chronic7]
    #10852263 -

The Tao is practical logic IMO. It's undefinable and beyond understanding and has nothing to do with "spirit" as far as anyone can tell.

Think on these things.:satansmoking:


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Chronic7]
    #10852267 -

wtf are you mumbling about? :lol:


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #10852274 -

Maybe he was responding (late) to my brain fart.:lol: He must have dial up.


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Icelander]
    #10852498 -

The Tao has some good verses related to seeking the 'one'. But don't let Christians interpret that for ya'.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Fraggin]
    #10852543 -

Neo? Is that you?


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Icelander]
    #10852668 -

Icelander said:
The Tao is practical logic IMO. It's undefinable and beyond understanding and has nothing to do with "spirit" as far as anyone can tell.

Think on these things.:satansmoking:


If you'd look to see that Tao is what you actually are, not icelander or john or whatever, then you would understand the spirit aspect of it, spirit must be something non-physical, formless, indefinable

Like the Tao, that is what you are, how could you be anything else?

Think on these things :strokebeard:

:peace:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: showme]
    #10852669 -

showme said:
Life is tragic when it is meaningless.


I don't see how you came to this conclusion, seeing as all life is necessarily meaningless. Do you think everyone's life is tragic?


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Poid]
    #10852692 -

Logical Falicy Fail.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Poid]
    #10852698 -

Seeing life is meaningless is like having the whole weight of the universe thrown off... it only seems depressing to the mind when subconsciously it starts to see that no object will ever totally satisfy it

But when you see that no objects will satisfy, you start to question if you are an object yourself...if all objects come & go & something eternal remains, can i be other than that?

:peace:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Chronic7]
    #10852829 -

Fraggin said:
Logical Falicy Fail.


The only assertion I made there was that all life is meaningless, and I didn't even present any reasoning for this. Where is the logical fallacy? 
:whatwhat:


Chronic777 said:
Seeing life is meaningless is like having the whole weight of the universe thrown off... it only seems depressing to the mind when subconsciously it starts to see that no object will ever totally satisfy it

But when you see that no objects will satisfy, you start to question if you are an object yourself...if all objects come & go & something eternal remains, can i be other than that?

:peace:


I am an object, and use other objects for enjoyment, like cocaine for example! :rail:

Are you asserting that we are not objects, but rather merely some sort of mystically eternal 'isness'?


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Poid]
    #10853016 -

Life is tragic when it is meaningless
All life is meaningless
Therefore, All life is tragic.

Fallacy

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Fraggin]
    #10853220 -

I don't think life is tragic when it's meaningless, that's what showme said. I also don't think that all life is tragic. I do, however, know that all life is objectively meaningless. :smirk:


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Chronic7]
    #10853236 -

Chronic777 said:
Icelander said:
The Tao is practical logic IMO. It's undefinable and beyond understanding and has nothing to do with "spirit" as far as anyone can tell.

Think on these things.:satansmoking:


If you'd look to see that Tao is what you actually are, not icelander or john or whatever, then you would understand the spirit aspect of it, spirit must be something non-physical, formless, indefinable

Like the Tao, that is what you are, how could you be anything else?

Think on these things :strokebeard:

:peace:



If you'd look to see that Tao is what you actually are, not icelander or john or whatever, then you would understand the spirit aspect of it, spirit must be something non-physical, formless, indefinable

Thanks for the religious thinking, I certainly need to hear more of that.

The Tao is energy if anything and cannot be created or destroyed. Spirit on the other hand was created by you and destroyed by me.


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Icelander]
    #10853793 -

Quote:
Spirituality is just another aspect of death anxiety IMO. There is really no evidence of "spirit". Except for true believers who don't know how to interpret their psychedelic experiences that is.


Agreed, and IMO spirituality is a (bunch of) feeling, just like God is a feeling. It's all in our heads, nothing we feel is outside of it.

Having said that, I see no reason why I should not push my psychedelic exploration until I obtain that feelings, and "meet God" as they say.


--------------------
Let's get the fuck out of here.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: Icelander]
    #10853821 -

I do agree that we are "just" animals

I agree with Icelander. HE is just an animal.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does Spirituality/Introspection also Experience a "Coming and Going"? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #10853905 -

Quote:
I agree with Icelander.


Either you have trouble with the word "we" or you do not.


--------------------
Let's get the fuck out of here.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  [ show all ]

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Consciousness, Physics, and Spirituality. Reggaejunkiejew 2,386 6 01/16/17 07:38 PM
by Middleman
* Christian Spiritual Experiences
( 1 2 all )		 LordPeter 4,522 23 12/11/01 06:44 AM
by LOBO
* Touching the other side... (profound experience)
( 1 2 all )		 Olgualion 5,388 36 02/26/02 07:23 AM
by Learyfan
* What does "spiritual" mean? Emotional? Ulysees 847 6 11/10/02 03:07 AM
by Ulysees
* Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation?
( 1 2 3 all )		 whiterasta 5,520 52 01/16/24 02:21 AM
by NoviceCultivator
* Inducing mystical experiences
( 1 2 all )		 Metasyn 4,533 29 03/14/17 10:00 PM
by beforethedawn
* Philosophy and "spiritual" living
( 1 2 all )		 11polakie11 2,933 20 06/25/02 07:43 AM
by nugsarenice
* The Second Coming of Christ!!
( 1 2 3 all )		 johnnyfive 5,354 40 01/29/03 09:14 AM
by johnnyfive

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
2,336 topic views. 1 members, 1 guests and 32 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.037 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 16 queries.