Zanthius said:

Are you are also against abortion?

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No, I'm not, and, just the same, I'm not against a parent that chooses to say "I'm an aggressive person, and I'm not ready to put that behavior within my child, so I'm not going to have a kid right now", but I'm very skeptical of anyone that would want to tell that same person "You're an aggressive person, and you have no right to create a child".


But, on the other hand, I'd be in favor very much of a state that made the decision to offer any parent a certain tax deduction if, when they are going to have a child, they decide to choose to take a few hours of visiting a psychologist's office to help prepare them for raising a child in a more beneficial, loving environment.

I'd also be very skeptical of anyone that would want to, quite similarly to your proposal, interdict people with genetic predispositions for diabetes from having children because more people with diabetes would mean higher health-care costs for everyone.

fireworks_god said:

But, on the other hand, I'd be in favor very much of a state that made the decision to offer any parent a certain tax deduction if, when they are going to have a child, they decide to choose to take a few hours of visiting a psychologist's office to help prepare them for raising a child in a more beneficial, loving environment.

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fireworks_god said:

I think it is important to be teachers and guides, when and if possible. Genetic diversity is, IMO, an important thing to maintain. It is amazing the power that interacting with others has on propagating behavior and thought. Behavior can be a very adaptive thing and it is most efficient to resolve behavioral concerns on the level of behavior, and not simply on genetic and chemical make-up levels.

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Zanthius said:What the fuck are you talking about? I NEVER said that there is a link between aggression and pedophilia, except for perhaps in your DELUSIONAL interpretation of the world. How many times do you want me to repeat this for you?

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MushroomTrip said:

I think that each person has his own path in life, and a specific evolution. A more observant individual would probably have the decency to let others alone with their mistakes or what they think is a mistake, instead of trying to eliminate them for their idea of a better life.

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So, according to you, a more observant individual would leave pedophiles that are abusing their children alone with their mistakes.

Who cares about their children anyhow. Not the more observant individuals of course!

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Zanthius said:

MushroomTrip said:

I think that each person has his own path in life, and a specific evolution. A more observant individual would probably have the decency to let others alone with their mistakes or what they think is a mistake, instead of trying to eliminate them for their idea of a better life.

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So, according to you, a more observant individual would leave pedophiles that are abusing their children alone with their mistakes.

Who cares about their children anyhow. Not the more observant individuals of course!

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MushroomTrip said:

Oh, so you were trying to pull a strawman.

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MushroomTrip said:

Tell me, in your opinion, when should people be allowed to make their mistakes and learn from them, and when not?

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Zanthius said:

MushroomTrip said:

Tell me, in your opinion, when should people be allowed to make their mistakes and learn from them, and when not?

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If a person is drinking a lot of alcohol and driving, should he be allowed to continue with his behavior until he crashes with another car and learns from his mistake? Well, that would be fine if he just harmed himself in the crash, but what if he kills another person?

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Mufungo said:

Are you trying to say that people should be allowed to make their mistakes and learn from them as long as no one else gets killed in the process?

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MushroomTrip said:

You're making it sound as if each person that drives drunk, will, sooner or later, have an accident and kill other people too. I hate this stupid drama, and it doesn't have anything to do with reality.

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