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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98872 - 01/06/00 01:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I just recently guided my girlfriend for the first time and it was a great experience. She had a wonderful time so I didn't have to try to calm her at all. I just wanted to say that watching someone trip for the first time is a great thing. I will never forget the expressions on her face as she discovered a whole new world. Also, If you haven't already read the psych. experience, here is a link http://www.cannabis.com/recreational/psychfaq.shtml. It has some good advice for guides. Peace


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98874 - 01/06/00 02:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

with first-timers I always take my time. Normally I know a couple of weeks before hand that they want to trip. In that time I take the time to answer questions. What can happen, what are the nice things, what are the bad things. Do they still have a mind of their own. That sort of things. Than I ask what they expect from it. With that information I try to create an admosphere in which that can be possible. Outside, inside, music, games, movies, etc. Than on the evening self I go through a couple of rules. Like : when it goes wrong, try to remind that they have to listen to throomy and try to keep in mind that it will all be okay.
Well according to me, the main thing is gaining trust and emphasize that I am an experienced user and that they can trust me. My part them is not to misuse their trust and to make it an happy event which asks for an sequal.

Throomy



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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98875 - 01/06/00 03:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

You sound like a good guide Throomy :smile:

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The country we live in was built by slaves
Beat down and murdered
And stuffed in thier graves
You put a slave owner on the one dolla bill
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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98876 - 01/06/00 05:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Good rules for a trip guide:

Say as little as possible.

Do as little as possible.

The perfect trip guide is invisible and silent until the tripper needs something, whether it's a glass of water or someone to talk to. They do what's needed straight away, and go back to being invisible and silent.

It's not easy. Best of luck.



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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98877 - 01/06/00 05:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thanx Violent-J. I try my best.. :wink: Am aiming for the award ambassador of shrooms of the year 2000.... :wink:


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98878 - 01/07/00 01:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i recently guided a close friend of mine through her first trip. once i found out she wanted to trip, i first told her to go to this wonderful site, and read as much as possible. then we planned the whole night out, where we would go, what we would do. basically, i think you just have to provide a secure and loving environment. the person has to trust you completely. i didnt have anyone to guide me my first time, and it wasnt a bad trip, but it could have been much better. anyway, she cant wait to do it again now, so i suppose i succeeded...

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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98879 - 01/08/00 12:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

POKEMON IS THE GAYEST THING EVER CREATED. Just had to say that. pokemon is so fuckin stupid


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98880 - 01/08/00 02:21 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

WHAT THE HELL DOES POKEMON HAVE TO DO IWTH SHROOMS?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?

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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98881 - 01/10/00 03:15 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Just make sure the people have complete trust in you, especially if they've already got a tendency to worry. I am paranoid already, and last time I tripped I absolutely felt that EVERYONE was trying to fuck with me, including the 2 that were tripping with me. Nothing's worse than feeling alone when you feel your trip make a turn in the negative direction. I could deal with my heartbeat and I could deal with my hands becoming tarantulas, but I could not deal with people fucking with my mind. Not cool.


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98882 - 01/10/00 11:40 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Dear Noisecode -
Would you take the advice of someone who started tripping in 1971 and is bright and healthy today? If your answer is yes, please familiarize yourself with the square, purple book named 'BE HERE NOW' published by the Lama Foundation, $13.13. It is the Very Best manual for tripping ever devised by modern people. I have given away many and still use it. Peace. Pax. Shanti. Shalom.


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98883 - 01/11/00 02:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've had to be people's guide on many occasions, and I have had the unfortunate (/fortunate, as a learning experience) of having to talk people out of a bad trip on 2 separate occasions when I happened upon him wigging out (I wasn't with him when he was tripping, I just found him on the couch chanting "9-1-1, 9-1-1, 9-1-1", you get the idea). First and foremost, if things do start to turn, and they're sitting down, make sure that your not standing over them. Crouch so that they look down to you. There is an instinctual fear that comes with being looked down upon, personified while under the influence. Next, explain why the things that they think are happening, aren't. I.e., you wouldn't feel this way if you didn't take drugs tonite. Do you think that that little piece of paper/mushroom is stronger than you? I know your stronger than that, etc. Also, explain how they are not losing their mind, that they simply are using parts of their minds that they did not know were there. A good way to precede the trip would be to have people read trip reports, both good and bad, from this site and www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml, before tripping. Another fantastic thing is to have them write on a piece of paper the following, before they begin to trip: "I feel good right now. It's just the drugs--it WILL be over in a few hours and I'll feel fine again". If they ever begin to feel bad, just tell them to look at the piece of paper and try to remember writing it; this will offer the suggestive state of mind of how they were when they wrote it, in addition to offering complacency FROM THEMSELVES (infinetly more powerful than anything you can say). Other than that, the suggestion of Sasquatch of anticipating needs and incorporating them before its noticed that they are needed, is as good as any. Good luck, and I'm sure you'll be fine.

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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98884 - 01/12/00 12:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Dear Free-Will -
All Excellent advice! I work as a crisis intervention/substance abuse specialist in one of this country's largest school systems,
but I started working with trippers during my
college years. Sometimes rational discourse is not possible. Use Setting first, and then one can re-arrange the mind Set. Lower the lights first! Light candles if possible. 'Good' incense is helpful. So now you have
two sensory modalities to your advantage. Next, music. Ask the person their choice first. In the old days American Beauty by the Grateful Dead was a staple album for coming down. Vintage Moody Blues too. Tactility: don't touch unless it's right. Paranoia, homophobia, etc. Pillows and soft stuff for the body. And then, I'm serious about this point. Open a BE HERE NOW to the brown, center portion, and turn the Set from distraughtness to jubilation! :smile: Peace & Love


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Re: anyone have any advice for trip guide
    #98885 - 01/14/00 11:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've noticed in all the time that that has passed since i first started triping, that the only way to really not be parinoid on your first trip is to just surprise the person, don't give them a chance to pre-formulate what might, and might not happen. i've noticed that when people start to think about it to much they just start to freak themselves out. i suggest to plan a good night, and surprise them. That way they take it and ease into a nice trip. then you can show them all the things you enjoy. Movies, music, lights ect.....


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