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To all of you guys who can't get women
    #9827679 -

....which would be most of the males reading this.  Most of you complain about the whole "nice guys finish last" paradigm.  Well, I wrote down a few things for you.  Read it and learn:


1.  In order to get women in the first place you need to often establish status in a group.  This means getting people to like you and look up to you.  In order to do this you have to offer something that interests them.  Become good at something that you can be admired for.  Establish some scene, adventure, or accomplishment that interests and excites people.

2.  Girls don't like submissive guys.  Do you wait for others to initiate occurrences in social situations?  Do you allow others to lead in conversations and interactions?  Do you not have anything on your own mind and your own plate so that it appears as if you look to others to formulate things?  Women don't like that stuff.  They tend to like a guy who is at a similar or slightly higher "dominance level".

3.  If you are not able to excel and be dominant in a certain social situation then leave it immediately by making it look like you have stuff to do and that it is no skin off of your back that you're leaving.  But, be sure not to make it look like you failed in the social situation and that you have a chip on your shoulder because of it.

4.  Women like guys who are confident, who have stuff going on, and who go after what they want.  A lot of guys mistake this for women liking "The Asshole".  Not true.  Women like the confidence, charisma, and excitement of a guy who makes things happen.  They are sometimes willing to deal with an asshole if said asshole exhibits these traits.  But, if you have these positive traits and you are nice then you will have women all over you.  If you don't have these positive traits then fake them until they truly appear in you.

5.  When I say "nice" I mean being polite, upbeat, not bitter, and not having a chip on your shoulder.  Nice doesn't mean fawning and wimpy.  You need to be your own man with your own interests that are seperate from her.  Familiarity breeds contempt.  If you make yourself too available and easy to obtain then you will look desperate.  If you cling to her, cater to her every whim, and don't have a backbone then she will quickly tire of you and become repulsed. 

6.  Never allow yourself to express being flustered, confused, dominated, outsmarted, or beaten.  Always appear as if you have everything under control even when you don't.


Do this stuff and pussy will follow.  :japsmile:  You can thank me later.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9827722 -

Good Advice.

Also Id like to add: Chick's dig some level of honesty. It is better to be an honest "asshole" than a "niceguy" who lies his ass off to avoid confrontation. This is my theory on why "niceguys" finish last.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #9827862 -

7. DSHSB if she gives you the chance.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #9827960 -

If you manage to successfully accomplish 1-7 then women will let you do anything you want to them.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9827971 -

Good advice.

Just to add to a couple points.

Anonymous #1 said:
1.  In order to get women in the first place you need to often establish status in a group.  This means getting people to like you and look up to you. 



After the age of 20, being in a frat does not fulfill this requirement.  Nor does playing sitar, or juggling fire sticks.

Anonymous #1 said:
4.  Women like guys who are confident, who have stuff going on, and who go after what they want.



In other words:  ambitious and successful.  If you justify being an unemployed loser and living with your mom as "rebelling against the man and the rat race" expect to find a like-minded woman.

Also, doing drugs and quoting McKenna doesn't necessarily make you "deep" or "intelligent" or satisfy the "stuff going on" requirement.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #9828153 -

Anonymous #4 said:
If you justify being an unemployed loser and living with your mom as "rebelling against the man and the rat race" expect to find a like-minded woman.




That's a little harsh.  Smoking weed, fucking around on the internet, quoting revolutionaries, and managing to keep the couch broken in all at the same time is quite an accomplishment.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9828276 -

this is very good advice. but this needs to be followed up with kino, or non-verbal game. so so important. you can know all of the above but if you don't know how to kino escalate you are seriously at a disadvantage.

The Di Carlo Kino Escalation Ladder

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9828329 -

This is actually really great advice and I completely agree with all points.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9828337 -

Pretty good guidelines IME. The asshole myth pisses me off; not only does it do the women themselves a disservice, but it reveals embarrassing facts about the guy whining about it in the first place. Namely, "I compensate for being boring by acting like a pushover, and when that fails I become virulently jealous of more interesting people."

Edited by Tchan909 (02/19/09 06:15 PM)

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9828386 -

The dominance aspect is really important.

I think with the whole feminism / respecting women movement we've clouded over the fact that men REALLY ARE supposed to be dominant, and this is what women are attracted to no matter how liberal and educated they are.

I didn't realize this until recently.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #9828389 -

Wow, Ive never heard of that kino thing but it makes perfect sense.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #9828424 -

Anonymous #7 said:
"I compensate for being boring by acting like a pushover, and when that fails I become virulently jealous of more interesting people."



Bingo. 

Even if you are boring, a douchebag, and reek of no self-confidence if you at least try to fake your way through 1-7 you will still be better off.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #9828556 -

Anonymous #2 said:
Wow, Ive never heard of that kino thing but it makes perfect sense.


as it should. how can you expect to lay a chick if you can't make proper overt physical contact and get her to feel comfortable with you touching her

you can use that kino routine alone along with some decent conversation to get what you want. you can't be a total caveman and just grope your way there gotta have some intellgence.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #9828589 -

Ive been useing it subconsciously.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #9828602 -

Anonymous #2 said:
Ive been useing it subconsciously.



yes some people already do this naturally. for the rest of us, theres google  :google:

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #9828714 -

Anonymous #4 said:
Good advice.

Just to add to a couple points.

Anonymous #1 said:
1.  In order to get women in the first place you need to often establish status in a group.  This means getting people to like you and look up to you. 



After the age of 20, being in a frat does not fulfill this requirement.  Nor does playing sitar, or juggling fire sticks.

Anonymous #1 said:
4.  Women like guys who are confident, who have stuff going on, and who go after what they want.



In other words:  ambitious and successful.  If you justify being an unemployed loser and living with your mom as "rebelling against the man and the rat race" expect to find a like-minded woman.

Also, doing drugs and quoting McKenna doesn't necessarily make you "deep" or "intelligent" or satisfy the "stuff going on" requirement.



You just wrecked 99% of The Pub's hopes and dreams of getting laid :'[

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #9828834 -

Totally.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #9828874 -

bumps

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9829043 -

To the OP, I offer a word of caution...

The more you understand the psychology of attraction the more likely you are to be turned off by it.

It is a rare man indeed who has both an accurate understanding of female psychology and the desire to use that knowledge to score.

The best PUAs are those who do it without any knowledge of why it works, in other words they are just naturally gifted with no outside training or special understanding of women.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #9829131 -

While I agree with all of the above advice, I feel like I need to make another assertion.

First and foremost, just be yourself. Don't try to pretend to be someone you're not. Most women can sense that you are acting and just trying to get into their pants, and unless you look like a male supermodel, they are just going to blow you off.

You don't have to do everything perfectly. Its not like if you don't touch a girl at the right time you have no chance of getting with her. Don't worry about accomplishing all of the steps these people mention. Just act naturally...

Talk to her, listen to her, be genuine with her. Share with her your thoughts and opinions. Tease her. Laugh with her.

If you appear comfortable with yourself, she will respect you and hopefully, desire you.

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