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checkmate, you atheists
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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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I'm going to stop the video at :57 and call BS.  The current scientific standard known no limit to the universe.  This guy draws a circle and says this is the universe.  In short, he's contradicting his own argument about atheists unto himself.

Besides, he's talking about naturalism.  Not atheists who firmly believe in an infinite universe of quantum possibilities.

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: Newbie]
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I thought that's agnostics were open to. But anyways, I think everyone needs to watch that video, it might inspire you to get saved.


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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arent mutations in offspring over a length of time what causes evolution, with the dominant traits winning out

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: Dark_globe]
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no, humans have always been humans, that is my belief


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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I agree that atheists can't say that their philosophy and science are the same thing. As the person on that video says, science can not make claims about things which can't or haven't been tested. So god, the essence of existence, all that kind of stuff is currently unanswered by science and possibly can not be answered by science. Atheism is basically a philosophy based on inference, not scientific fact.

Edited by DimensionX (01/20/09 12:48 AM)

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: DimensionX]
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i remember that guy, he is an idiot.


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: truekimbo2]
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too many wars have been fought over religious beliefs for me to even want to believe in that shit.
if there were a supreme being would it let lives be taken in it's name?
when i die my body is going to rot in the ground and become carbon again as it began, no afterlife for me.

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: d4nkman]
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well there are extremist

just because some christians killed to spread their beliefs doesn't mean all christians did

just like not all muslims are terrorists just because a small minority are


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

Edited by aDoS (01/20/09 12:57 AM)

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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Wow. that kid is super douche-tastic.

I don't necessarily disagree with what he was saying, I just couldn't stand to listen to his voice for more than 2 minute. 11 mins is definitely too long for that...

"Culture and Ideology are NOT your friends!" ~Terrence McKenna


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: d4nkman]
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There are some pretty crazy atheists around as well.

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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aDoS said:
it might inspire you to get saved.


I hope you were being sarcastic. If not, this post might inspire you to get bent.

:shitstorm:


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: DimensionX]
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DimensionX said:
Atheism is basically a philosophy based on inference, not scientific fact.


Atheism is not a philosophy, its the absence of a particular philosophy.

Painting is a hobby...."not painting" is not a hobby
Blond is a hair color....bald is not a hair color
Basketball is a sport/game....."not playing basketball" is not a sport/game

Get it?


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: blewmeanie]
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DimensionX >> I see that you have been annointed cubic!


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: blewmeanie]
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but if it addresses the question, picks a definite side, and has a range of arguments as to why it believes the way that it does. It seems the same as any other philosophy.

It dosen't just avoid the question of god altogether. It has definite position on the subject.

Edited by DimensionX (01/20/09 01:22 AM)

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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: DimensionX]
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DimensionX said:
but if it addresses the question, picks a definite side, and has a range of arguments as to why to believes the way that it does. It seems the same as any other philosophy.


Atheism does not adress any questions, it does not represent a side to any particular argument....etc

There is no Atheism except from the point of view of the theist.

Some people who call themselves atheist's go out of their way to try and disprove various religious beliefs, but that is not atheism. Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in god. Or more specifically a lack of belief in your god.


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: aDoS]
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Oh my god, it's Dimitri. 














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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: DimensionX]
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Yeah, but probably the only thing that most atheists do agree on is that they don't believe in a god. Beyond that there is nothing.

They may all share a fondness for rationalism, but I doubt that most atheists share the same reasoning behind their non-belief in a god.


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Yeah, but probably the only thing that most atheists do agree on is that they don't believe in a god. Beyond that there is nothing.

They may all share a fondness for rationalism, but I doubt that most atheists share the same reasoning behind their non-belief in a god.


Youre confusing lack of belief with the denial of a particular belief.


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Re: checkmate, you atheists [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
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lol at that emo, such BS

I'm too drunk to explain my position properly

I'm more of a physicalist tho. I think life has absolutely no meaning and free will is an illusion. Humans are just biological organisms that operate on a complex physical chain of cause and effect.

Life is just a hopeless, unwinable fight against entropy. However, that doesn't mean you can't experience boundless amounts of joy while you possess self-awareness so I advocate hedonism.


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