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 jivJaN yes    Registered: 08/09/08 Posts: 4,245 Last seen: 13 years, 4 months |
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Its been more than clear to me that the interest on this subject has been increasing , or perhaps i only see it as such.
Nevertheless it is an important factor at this present time and many people have questions and claims about this "phenomena". Well.. i will not attempt to give guidelines being that this is an ability not to be used lightly. What i will do is explain ,from my point of view, the nature of this action and its (lack of)purpose. All is One. Everything in existence .. what you know and dont know, what you have seen and failed to see as well is only part of the illusion that governs existence in all of its forms. We are currently moving from the 3rd to 4,5, density experience as the planet itself as a sentient being undergoes this transformation for itself. As we approach the end of this cycle that is to end all cycles .. unexplainable notions are becoming more and more frequent as a result of the incoming of these cosmic energies as we come closer to alignment. Yes.. its this 2012 subject. I cannot go around it and i know its been heard many times before , but it will be talked about even more as this linear time as we know it starts to reveal its non-linear properties. Well.. to get back on the subject. "Telekinesis" - moving objects with your mind. People have referred to this as a power. I beg to differ. It is powerful only in the hands of those who seek power and personal gratification via "being more than the ordinary" Of course .. there is always two sides to the story.. My wish is to present how , and why such ability can be manifested without the will to control, manipulate dominate or engage in an infringement on free-will in any way. The reality on this planetary sphere we inhabit at the moment (although it is shifting) is the illusion of physical /matter. Everything is light. The walls you look at that seam so solid , the people the technology the trees.. everything. This light is vibrated on by 3rd density vibrations that give all "things" an appearance of being solid .. being physical. Therefore only influenced by physical interaction. But.. knowledge is available from higher densities.. along with the knowledge available to all of us known as "connecting with the infinite creator" which resides in all things and beings. This is where the ability among many others lay.. The notion of oneness is one to be realized in order for this activity to occur in the way i advocate it , if you will give me that right. I will elaborate. Throughout all the densities and all the experiences in existence before returning to this source .. we have interaction. We (and i dont mean just we humans) are simply possibilities of the infinite creation. A good analogy could be that we are dream characters in a dream of the creator. We are all unique representations of the same source interacting with each other to create catalyst for progress. This is the purpose. This is also the purpose of the so called good and evil. Reference points for each other. I say unity.. you say immortality.. etc. All of it coming down to the same point basically.. which is progress. The only difference is the method.. the teaching. I feel i have gone on a little ramble so i will jump strait back to the topic although i think it is strongly related and conveying this might be difficult without the pre-knowledge , or perception of "reality" which differs between us all in very distinct ways , for there is no objective reality unless we would agree that we do not exist at all. Which can also be debated. Nevertheless.. its all we have ,so we work with it. Denial can be a useful tool to carry on with everyday life , and it is one of the main properties of this density being governed by the law of confusion. These abilities are simply examples of penetrating this confusion in a way. Once you have obtained the realization that we are ALL ONE. Moving a "pencil" would not mean moving something else. And it will not be manipulation. A better term would be harmoniously co-existing. This is how : We all move parts of the body in every day actions never even taking a second thought how it occurs. The answer can be quite simple. There is an alliance. A unity between the mind and the body. My hand is not what i am .. nor is it separate from me. I am moving my fingers to type , just as i inhale and exhale oxygen in order to survive. That is the key.. being utterly convinced that this is possible. As everything is simply a possibility.. that means that everything.. is possible. With that knowledge comes the technique. When you move something with your hand.. that is manipulation of physical reality , for you did not ask the keyboard if it is ok. This is not a bad thing.. simply an example of how this works from my POV. With Oneness.. inevitably comes respect for free will. Some people say : So do you ask it to move ? Its not simple as that. I could ask you to do something.. that doesnt mean you will do it. And if i make you do it.. its only a matter of time before rebellion occurs. Its not the same with physical matter. It does not have free will. It doesnt need it. So.. the deal is.. you would not be moving something else.. That portrays separation. It is you that is moving. For you are everything. You are the infinite creator in essence. The individuality serves its for-mentioned purpose. But if the individual desire occurs.. you dont go very far. Why? Well first one must examine the reason for striving to this "ability" And what could it be ? Ask yourself this. Why do i want to be able to move this with my "mind". Some say.. if we are all One .. and everything is possible.. why do anything at all ? Well.. once you have obtained the necessary knowledge.. You will do nothing  The nothingness springs automatically into creation being forever connected with it. Everything is there .. and then its not.. and that is the frequency. on..off..on..off.. So your entire existence as you move through all the densities is : On.. then Off. The pencil is there.. than its not... And this happens so fast.. you percieve it as "there" This is why.. everything vibrates. Vibration is existence. The never ending mingling of plus and minus. The infinite creator -intelligent infinity... its energy - intelligent energy "You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion by your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your people, but little considered. This energy is intelligent. It is hierarchical. Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within a hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell or shape or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock. When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock. With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity. In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to a cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished, which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance." Its all very confusing isnt it ? Thats the way it should be I am open for any discussion on this subject. What i must note is that i am in this experience as we are all. Therefore i request respect. I urge you to read this with entirety and with understanding before you issue a reply or a question. I can go greatly into detail about this matter with the purpose of explaining proper intent and motivation for raising awareness and helping others. I do not practice ritualistic magic. And although i can comment on it , i do not support it , nor judge it. I do not give advice .. All i can and will do is offer my perspective and it is present for you to deny or accept or contemplate it as such. Also.. i would recommend constructing your questions and/or viewpoints very precisely. I put much time into this although it may sounds like insane ranting. You either understand or you dont. The only question is whether you are willing to consider this , or publicly announce your disagreement. Everything is acceptable if proper respect is involved , and honest query is present. I dont deal with non-sense. Id like to be able to say i don have time for it.. but time is in abundace. Rather.. i would argue that time spent is a choice. And i choose to react with equality in response. If you dont give my little monologue enough time,respect and understanding , you can expect the same from me. Thank you -------------------- 
--------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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 deCypher   Registered: 02/10/08 Posts: 56,232 |
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I agree that everything is one. This all is an illusion, and humanity as a whole is rapidly evolving towards Godhead through our increasingly connected technological sphere and perhaps yet untapped mental powers, similar to how proteins first collided in their predetermined ways to form the first cell or to how cells first interacted in fundamentally simpler behavioral ways to form the first multicellular organism.
Lower levels of consciousness spawn higher levels that the constituent building blocks cannot even be aware of. Even though an individual neuron is not aware of its part in the whole, the mind still acts as a single unit (even though this is an illusion of consecutive mind moments and neural firings between synapses). As humans we simply present ourselves as the next step on the evolutionary chain, yet we've reached a sufficient point on the exponential curve that we're now able to realize our potential, if not wholly embrace the magnitude of the new consciousness that we will undoubtedly spawn. I am not arguing against this merging into a single organism; like jivJaN points out, this is inevitable. I also agree that this culmination will be more like a human moving his or her arm than any manipulation. One does not ask a finger to lift; nor does one command the finger to do so. Instead, you simply act in unison with the rest of your body--everything moves as one. However, it becomes a further question as to what one should do with this knowledge, and here I differ with my esteemed partner. We are cells in the organism of Humanity, to be sure, but this does not dictate our fate. We have free will, do not forget. We can choose to give up everything, and live our lives to give into and simultaneously build up the system that inevitably will define our future, but... why should we? Organisms are not perfect beings, immaculately conceived out of goodness and harmony. We are subjected to the laws of nature just like anything else, and survival of the fittest still reigns supreme in the wilderness of primal chaos. Organisms function through the cooperation of their cells, yes, but this does not mean that every cell is doomed to mindlessly conform to the benefit of the whole. Organisms still have immune systems, to defend both against hostile external influences and to keep the system in line. Any cell that deviates from the ordained genetic line is prematurely terminated--the host can afford no mutation or deviation from stale order. But it is this mutation that offers so many other boundless opportunities. Without change, or disruption, or chaos, there is only stagnation. Evolution feeds from mutation. Species need mutation to progress. And just like everything, balance is key: too much chaos and the organism is ripped apart from internal dissent and disharmony, like a nation collapsing under the weight of civil war. But too much order and a society grows old and hardened; clinging to the past and to tradition with scrabbling aged claws. Cancer provides a prime example where the individual cell seeks to forego this oppressive feedback loop of stability: a mutation spurring liberation from the genetic regime. A healthy arm moves with the will of the mind; a cancerous arm not necessarily. From the perspective of the organism cancer is seen as detrimental... but ah, what from the viewpoint of the cell? Selfishness and altruism are merely a matter of perspective. Ultimately, choosing to differentiate one's behavior between the false dichotomy of self-service and service to others falls into the trap of believing that one's individual goal is irrevocably tied up with the goal of the Whole. Why shun power in favor of humility? Why shun being the master of your own destiny? Choose to see beyond the black and white lines of a decision that impinges on free will versus a decision that does not. See beyond the trap of dividing the Tao into good and evil, and instead, realize your limitless potential. Revel in the shades of gray. Liberate yourself, and divine the God within. This is the power and the glory of the left-hand path. A cell can burn brightly with the fires of its own immortality, just as it can placidly live in harmony with the rest of the organism. But at least choose your own destiny. -------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.   
Edited by deCypher (12/29/08 01:43 PM)
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c0sm0nautt Registered: 05/19/08 Posts: 10,305 Loc: The Astral Realm |
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I agree with what you say jivJaN. From readings along the way, I remember learning that the pyramids were built with thought, by a social memory complex known as Ra, and deliberately assembled in block form to look natural. This would make sense, considering some of those rocks weighing in the hundreds of tons were supposedly quarried hundreds of miles away.
According to Seth, all has consciousness. By tapping into the nonphysical dimensions of reality, the birthright of all consciousness, we can do all sorts of "godly" actions including telekinesis, telepathy, etc. We are just remembering these nonphysical parts of our self as we move out of this dark age of physical supremacy. If you have not already, check out the book "Seth Speaks," for it has much insight into this subject.
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jivJaN yes Registered: 08/09/08 Posts: 4,245 Last seen: 13 years, 4 months |
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"Why shun being the master of your own destiny? "
"But at least choose your own destiny" This is precisely what i try to explain .. and let me tell you why i dont favor the negative side .. It has nothing to do with good and evil. Evil .. is your common unaware person seeking personal gratification through the suffering or an other self. Evil lies beneath wisdom. When i refer to the negative side i mean those who have chosen a path of service to self. And why are they negative ? I believe to have encountered a malevolent being. A reptile to be more precise. What happened : I got cold. It was like a dramatic decrease in temperature in the room. I felt a presence yet could not see it. I got scared.. yet i wouldnt call it fear. Its like a reaction i cant do anything about. A natural response of the body triggering the mind into caution. So.. i thought (since you dont need to speak out loud to these beings) "show yourself" So.. he/she suddenly jumped in front of my face and gave me a dramatic look. Again.. i got scared .. a reaction like if you heard a loud noise.. you cant help it. Nevertheless .. i refuse to be frightened. This being did not show it self anymore. But it was still present. So a telepathic conversation proceeded. And i did not like what this being had to say. First i said : leave. You know.. you hear a lot of people saying just tell it to leave and it will have to.. But this can be harder than you think. While your telling him to leave a thousand other racing thoughts come through , somehow in this realm of telepathic conversation considered as the continuation of the conversation. It takes real discipline to keep your thoughts in control especially when your communicating with someone who wants to confuse you even more. And they do.. they instigate illogical thinking. To make this story shorter.. I was simply irritated. Not scared.. not buying into this story.. just plain irritated. Its like your talking to a politician rambling on and on about stuff you dont really want to hear. So.. i almost got angry. I felt like standing up and telling him to fuck off. But.. that would have been a mistake. Throughout the entire "conversation" i felt like whatever i thought or said would somehow be the exact event he wanted to happen. Well.. i got rid of him in the end. Pretty much.. i feal sorry for these entities. They go into this control thing.. only because they were controlled into believing the damn scheme in the first place. Its not their fault. There are no mistakes. All in all.. despite the entire story .. and back to where i can be a cocky fool They are god damn pussies .. Cowards ! Preying on the weaker... feeding of the other cowards. Like bullies in school.. If nothing else.. i always disliked those who dont pick on someone their own size ya know.. Some people can have some very, very nasty experiences if they encounter these dudes. So.. to sum it up.. Positive entities respect the free will of every being. Negative entities try to go around it. Some people say they never come unless you invite them. But you dont know your inviting them until it actually happens. And even if you are.. its because you have been manipulated into seeing reality their way for a long time already as an inhabitant of this planet. Furthermore.. by just writing this i remember and pay attention to them and you read it .. In their realm can be considered as a calling if it interest is repeated or conversation prolonged. So .. if they have use of you.. or think you might be a harm to their plans.. they will pop up. I know this can scare some people but i can guarantee weve all had the privilege of communicating with these fellows... We just chose to forget about it. I really dont mean to tell anybody what to think or do.. What i think.. is that if you have thoughts steering you towards the negative path.. (even though you might not call it negative) this probably does not imply you will be joining them. In most cases its an infusion of confusion perceived as knowledge. They want us to fail with this transition. And they promise all sorts of shit to those that buy the story.. Its a lie.. In most cases at least.. It takes a really really selfish and extremely out of the ordinary intelligent person to be welcomed into the realm of the negatively polarized. And even if you do.. Your on the fucking bottom working your way up like a little slave doing everything for the "master". And they literally have a master. Their progress equals his progress. Very , very hierarchical "dog eat dog" society as david wilcock would say.. Kind of like what we got here on earth right ? Kind of like why we started messing around with these mushrooms and other in the first place.. To learn something more than how to "be on top" .. Anyway.. I acknowledge their existence as an equal catalyst for evolutionary progress and what not.. and would also agree with what you said entirely.. But.. They lie ! Why do they lie ? They hide ! What do they have to hide ? They try to control.. yet nothing can entirely be controlled NOTHINGIts just not "natural" if i may use the term. So.. i guess you can say i just dont fancy them. If im thinking logically.. they are just illogical. If im thinking emotionally.. they dont exactly make you feel good about yourself. Btw.. cancer is a cell choosing progress when its environment and the mind behind the body did not give it proper treatment. It naturally responds in the only way its been responded to previously.. ... another long post from me.. im sry 
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--------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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deCypher Registered: 02/10/08 Posts: 56,232 |
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Psychedelics are a tool just like any other. They can be used for good, certainly; to learn how to live in peace and harmony a la 60s counterculture revolution, to form bonds of community with other like-minded folk with free conversation and spreading of joy, and to explore the joyous mysteries of the spiritual rabbit hole. But they can also certainly be used for great evil: MKULTRA scientists performed brainwashing techniques with acid and marijuana, Charles Manson indoctrinated cult members with belladonna and LSD, and Haitian shamans used Datura to turn people into docile zombies. It all depends upon the motive and intent of the person using them--they are by no means a miraculous gift that only promotes the positive evolution of the species. In this manner I wholly disagree with your philosophy in reference to the darker half of the metaphysical sphere. You arbitrarily imply that service to others is by definition more noble, more wise, and somehow more aware than service to the self, and yet every altruistic act you do as a human being stems from a selfish source--you only gratify yourself by helping others. You insinuate that to choose personal gratification over helping others is somehow less developed than respecting free will, yet the concept of a will unsullied by any outside influence is ludicrous: anything that you do or say alters the rest of humanity whether you like it or not. Respecting free will is impossible; I can easily manipulate people without affecting their capacity to make a choice, and correspondingly anything that you do manipulates people without even your intent. For instance, every human technically has the choice to do as they please, but a person who has been mainlining methamphetamine continuously for the past three weeks will surely not make a free decision whether or not they will continue to use the drug. I can manipulate a person's entire hierarchy of priorities without altering their "free" will... this is not a good dichotomy to construct one's metaphysical belief paradigm on. If I kidnap your children and hold your wife hostage at gunpoint, and ask you to choose between giving me your possessions or my killing your family, your choice is still "free." Needless to say, however, we all know which one would you choose... the concept of a decision that does not alter free will versus one that does is clearly ineffectual. In addition, anything that you say to a person (even in the context of helping them) alters their state of mind. A choice is nothing more than a selection of a course of action from a list of options: anything you say or bring up in the course of conversation will alter these list of options for better or for worse. This is the butterfly effect, and we are interconnected in more ways than you can imagine. Why not throw off this paltry veil of refraining from interference, and instead glory in the power of connection? Why not use this capacity to influence others as you see fit? No, instead you shun the natural desires of the flesh and repress any manifestation of your subconscious will by attempting to shoo away malevolent beings. This is not the best tactic, in my opinion. Recognize that you are human. Recognize that you possess the will and intent to harm others, along with the will and intent to keep others from being harmed. To deny one and extol the other is folly--you only damage your unbalanced spiritual development this way. Instead, embrace both the dark and the light within. When you see a malevolent being, call to it. Embrace it. Only then will you realize that the diabolical urge and the impulse to control was within you all along, and the malevolence towards you will wholly disappear. I embrace both the touch of helpful entities just as I welcome the seductive darkness of ill will. You will find no repression here; no squirming avoidance of what is true and primal. For above all, both good and evil are instinctual to our very nature. Mothers help their young find food, and animals care for and nurture each other. But at the same time animals kill other animals to survive and to eat: the lion rips flesh from the wounded gazelle just as easily as the Ebola Zaire virus welcomingly infects its host. Life is competition just as much as it is cooperation, make no mistake about it.
They only lie and they only hide if you can't come to grips with your Jungian Shadow. We live in a blissful superposition of free will and destiny: everything controls everything else. Don't mistake free will for its illusion. Good and evil are just as natural as the Tao. If you see them as illogical, you clearly have not delved deep enough to understand their rationale. If you seem as bringing only negativity to yourself, you clearly have not embraced all that is within you. There is not just one side to the Yin Yang. And I look very much forward to continuing this discussion. 
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Edited by deCypher (12/30/08 01:47 PM)
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jivJaN yes Registered: 08/09/08 Posts: 4,245 Last seen: 13 years, 4 months |
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"MKULTRA scientists performed brainwashing techniques with acid and marijuana"
" Charles Manson indoctrinated cult members with belladonna and LSD" "Haitian shamans used Datura to turn people into docile zombies." And.. " It all depends upon the motive and intent of the person using them" Do you think the persons using them in the examples above would have agreed if they had an idea of the motives behind the peoples suggesting this ? Ive heard that the "manson girls" still think they did what they did out of love.. But now its too late. You know what.. in the beginning of our discussions i had classified you in a certain group only to learn that the messages you convey have deeper roots and meaning than my judgmental attitude allowed me to see. But it seams to me that i have been classified by you in a similar fashion. I know some people like to proudly declare this , but i truly think if you met me in person you would see that im not all kisses and flowers. I have my likes and dislikes. And if i dont like you.. and i dont wanna talk to you.. ill get rid off you in the end. When it comes to my free will .. i dont care. Try to step on it and i will react. I never could stand authority. When you talk about animalistic behavior.. it is after all animalistic.. and we are not animals although we tend to behave like animals with bad manners. We are conscious and aware of our existence therefore free will is projected. I understand you when you think it is an illusion , but that is only for the time being. Only in the 3rd density are such meshed emotions and motives together in one place. At least on our planet.. Every thought you have is a cause for a further effect that echoes on through infinite space for others to feel. The thing is.. only here do you have to feel it , and that is if you dont completely understand the means of telepathic interaction. And i dont. Furthermore i think it is impossible to be unswayed by outer conscious projections in this density. If you managed this.. you would simply die or disappear and we will ll see you on the other side Once the transition occurs.. the free will has outstanding properties. Imagine every contact like a phone call.. And you dont have to answer if you dont want to. But now.. you dont even know if someones calling you. You have a dream and write it off.. you hear a sound you think your going crazy.. you feel a strange tingle and you think its the air-conditioning.. Im not saying it isnt.. Whatever... Being completely aware of all these things in a mind we currently have would eventually lead to "SYSTEM OVERLOAD" The thing is.. we are getting our "windows" updated .. and a fast fucking wireless connection with pretty much everything you can currently imagine .. and more. And all im saying is.. Dont log on the sites that only want your money. Or.. go ahead and do it.. I believe to be very compassionate.. But.. again the free will is paramount.. So i couldnt care less if you know what your doing. But i think people dont in most cases. If it is your path i respect it. And when i say "you" all the time i dont mean cypher.. just for the record. So.. in the end.. Yes. We all have this darkness inside. And all the "dark" forces are also part of creation and without them nothing would be. Very important role players.. But.. understanding their rationale would be like understanding the government or those behind. You only get bits and pieces in order to fit in the way they want and quietly perform the tasks you are given. They taught us how to do it GOD DAMN IT You say you can easily influence people... Well its not really that hard is it ? Why do you think so ? How many times do you remind yourself how stupid people are ? You know i have a dog and he sits if i tell him to. But something is different now. I have the habit of doing so.. But i stop and think.. This little guy here.. Is in my house instead of living in his natural habitat. He practically loves me more than life .. doesnt eat much.. and im telling him to sit ?? Why? If i let him outside he would return.. And its not because of the food. He is practically my servant.And its not by his own free will. And you see.. I just have a problem with that. I dont think he minds.. But i do. Humans were doing what they were doing idk how many thousands of years ago.. And then some higher dimensional beings decided to come down and help us out. Service to others -Tall.. with abilities beyond the current comprehension , automatically perceived as gods and now we have religions that were and still are causes for WAR. Good intentions .. but ended up bad. Im not pro war.. But come on.. At least have a battle for a good fucking reason. EVERYTHING gets messed up when you compromise free will. All problems stem from this action. And to deny the free will.. is to deny creation itself.. It is.. to deny yourself. " A choice is nothing more than a selection of a course of action from a list of options: anything you say or bring up in the course of conversation will alter these list of options for better or for worse. This is the butterfly effect " Well .. good thing someone knows this. But.. and i stress the BUT.. and this may sound a bit crazy .. I considered not speaking to people at all at one point. I was to afraid of the possible consequences.In the end.. i realized that this interaction is all we have. You dont have to believe in what i say.. You can believe and go kill yourself cause you dont undersand it entirely. I could tell you you got beings above you .. and you are a puppet. And you dont even know it. Everything you say isnt you saying it. You agreed to this you know .. You just dont remember. There is no you anymore.. But .. i could be wrong.. I could be right. This is why existence in this density is so complicated. If i knew your future and were to tell you about .. it would be an infringement according the cosmic laws governing higher levels of existence. Even if you future meant your family being raped and killed. The butterfly effect we got going on here is not so significant honestly.. I have dreams that happen afterward. The first time this happened to me.. I thought how is this possible. Momentarily i came to the conclusion that if i were able to be aware of everything in one single moment .. the projection of an outcome would occur. And this is how it works. Thats the only way it can work. I could add much to this .. but thats a different story.. Anyhow.. in these higher realms.. they calculate these possibilities for us with the greatest ease. Time is no more a factor .. so they can understand the distortion. Just like you can understand the distortion of the peoples you would manipulate into doing your will. But.. some choose not to[STO].. Some choose to do so.[STS] Between them.. this doesnt happen. They can only fuck with us and their own kind. You stay unaware.. they can fuck with you. You decide to join them.. they can fuck with you. After everything.. you get the story how it was for your own good. And then after that.. you have to join to service to others group in order to progress further , and then it is forgiven. I know this may not have any debatable value.. but i felt it is necessary to express my view to certain degree in order to continue with the discussion. I feel like ive been raped over and over again.. and i dont want be the rapist now. At least not with intent. This is where we differ. And in the end we have to agree its just a different view and both ways will be understood as equal catalysts for learning and progress , and we combine as plus and minus creating the atom. I just dont want to see anymore suffering. Not on this planet and not for the planet Its been enough i recon. --------------------
--------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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deCypher Registered: 02/10/08 Posts: 56,232 |
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This can be arranged. 
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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jivJaN yes Registered: 08/09/08 Posts: 4,245 Last seen: 13 years, 4 months |
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How so ? --------------------
--------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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cluelesslue Two people, one Registered: 12/31/08 Posts: 12 Last seen: 17 years, 7 months |
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I'll come back with a question later but right now I'm speechless and I have much to learn from reading your posts...
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Diaboleros Devil's spawn  Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 1,856 Last seen: 9 years, 3 months |
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Yeah all is one, the kybalion for the win. But how about the next step? Whats next after you've figured it all out? How exactly are we supposed to change our daily routines according to this?
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jivJaN yes Registered: 08/09/08 Posts: 4,245 Last seen: 13 years, 4 months |
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Thats a difficult question to answer. There is no specific way or method. You kind of find yourself doing things differently. Before you know it, you will be a new person yet it would seem as that is the person you have always been. You just forgot. Thats the best way i can describe the change. The "daily routines" start disappearing as ones interest switches in direction. The goal , the motive .. the purpose is regained. I guess the best way to try and understand this "transformation" process is to see yourself and everything around you as the creator and a unique representation of it.. Always looking to expand the view. See more of this creation and admire the beauty which lies in all. The course of interaction also changes dramatically as one realizes that others mistakes ,problems ,beliefs are not to be judged , rather to be understood through allowing each individual to express itself freely. I just see everything as possibilities of the infinite creation. If i see something in you.. That must mean it is also a part of the same "thing" therefore it cannot be the subject of ridicule or anger. This would be like making fun of yourself or being angry at yourself. Which we also do sometimes... But that is just another possibility.. another aspect. If we understand that all is one , The exploration of these magnificent possibilities manifested as our personalities and countless actions, becomes easier .. for the creator is not judging , but learning more about himself through these imaginary identities we have in order to form a basis for communication through personal expression. Does not everybody wish to be heard and understood ? Which is more beautiful .. a drop of water.. or the entire sea ? I argue neither. They are the same. The only difference is size , and thats just a matter of perception Everything is.. perception. The way i see things will never be exactly the same as somebody else sees them. What would that lead to ? We would have nothing to exchange.. nothing to learn from one another. This way.. knowing that we are both but drops of water in the sea.. and seas of our own holding an infinity of these little drops ..we communicate.. drop to drop.. sea to sea. There is a "new".. bigger sea we are starting to be aware of slowly. And its not just showing up.. Its always been there. Your daily routine , need not be a routine my friend. Habits are a bitch ! And existence offers knowledge and joy in every moment.. in a totally unique way , different and new with each second... We just choose to ignore it sometimes.Stuck in a loop of structure and form ... a naive attempt to keep things in order.. in control... But what does this order/control mean actually ? Remember.. everything is perception.. So what it means is.. adjusting the surroundings to your perception. So should we adjust the perception then ?NO.. There is no objective perception to ADJUST TO. There is nothing to adjust.Simply let be.. Perhaps.. we should just let the two meld together in alliance.. Become one I hope i have been helpful.. Sry if it seems kind of messy and confusing.. I had a long night drinking mushroom tea.. Words are not exactly on my side Peace --------------------
--------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Diaboleros Devil's spawn Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 1,856 Last seen: 9 years, 3 months |
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Yeah it's a helpful and very interesting post. Thanks for the reply. But what I meant with routines is the daily actions you undertake according to your vision on life... like meditation, dreaming, ... what concrete things do you do and practise?
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