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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
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No-one ever tells the whole, complete truth.



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I'm always lying to myself.



I don't think it is possible to speak whole truths.

Because they do not exist.

People talk a lot about the merits of complete honesty, and speaking ones mind.
I think often this has nothing to do with respect for honesty but a selfish desire to vent and purge ones own waste, *ahem* thoughts...

I am a fan of tactful honesty, especially when I care for someone. Perhaps this is wrong. :shrug:.

There is a time and place for everything.



reason for edit:  response to this post was WAY too honest.


Edited by CidneyIndole (09/14/08 04:23 PM)

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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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:rolleyes:


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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CidneyIndole said:
figmentfragment said:
Quote:
No-one ever tells the whole, complete truth.



Quote:
I'm always lying to myself.



I don't think it is possible to speak whole truths.

Because they do not exist.

People talk a lot about the merits of complete honesty, and speaking ones mind.
I think often this has nothing to do with respect for honesty but a selfish desire to vent and purge ones own waste, *ahem* thoughts...

I am a fan of tactful honesty, especially when I care for someone. Perhaps this is wrong. :shrug:.

There is a time and place for everything.



reason for edit:  response to this post was WAY too honest.





prime example of purging.


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
CidneyIndole said:
figmentfragment said:
Quote:
No-one ever tells the whole, complete truth.



Quote:
I'm always lying to myself.



I don't think it is possible to speak whole truths.

Because they do not exist.

People talk a lot about the merits of complete honesty, and speaking ones mind.
I think often this has nothing to do with respect for honesty but a selfish desire to vent and purge ones own waste, *ahem* thoughts...

I am a fan of tactful honesty, especially when I care for someone. Perhaps this is wrong. :shrug:.

There is a time and place for everything.



reason for edit:  response to this post was WAY too honest.





prime example of purging.



haha... I guess that's a fair call.

But I also thought it was a valid, though not traditional, way to make a point regarding what you said.

:peace:


edited for clarity


Edited by CidneyIndole (09/15/08 12:21 AM)

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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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"traditional" is a bizarre word choice.

I saw no point being made there. I did however observe insinuation and manipulation.

I reiterate, there is a time and place for everything...

Now that is tactful honesty.


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
"traditional" is a bizarre word choice.

I saw no point being made there. I did however observe insinuation and manipulation.

I reiterate, there is a time and place for everything...

Now that is tactful honesty.



I absolutely agree with your point that there is a time and a place for everything.

IMO, you're doing it backwards. you said:

"I am a fan of tactful honesty, especially when I care for someone. Perhaps this is wrong."

What are we, as people, but our thoughts, feelings, and our actions?

If we hide these things from one another... do we really know each other? Who is Alexandra, but the things she feels, thinks, and does? This makes up you as a person, and if you hide these things from those closest to you, or distort the reality of these things... do those who you care most about know you? Do they care about the real you?

These are things I think about. I can be more reserved with strangers. Casual acquaintances. They can see parts of me, and I can be tactful, even strategic with the truth.

But those closest to me...

Who of us would want to die thinking that no one ever really knew us?  That no one ever really loved the person that we are...


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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CidneyIndole said:
If we hide these things from one another...



CidneyIndole said:
reason for edit:  response to this post was WAY too honest.



:crazy:

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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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I mentioned nothing about hiding anything.

I feel it appropriate to exercise thinking before speaking.  And one should make sure that ones motives lie with expressing truth, not merely selfish outbursts.


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: figmentfragment]
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I respectfully have to bow out of this discussion.

And hi, Synthetic.  :wink:


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Re: Radical Honesty [Re: CidneyIndole]
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Yo

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