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Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style
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I have been asked if these type of vegetable steamers would work for sterilizing brf/verm cakes.
I wish mine would hold more cakes


I have always assumed that they would work but I have never taken to  the time nor have I seen a post where someone has used one. I had a little free time today so i put a few cakes together. I used a basic brf/verm cake recipe. Any recipe will work but the only important thing is to use distilled water. you can only use distilled water when making brf/verm cakes. All other types of water will kill the mushroom mycelium. It has to be this brand also.


Here is something a lot of people screw up on. Its the packing of substrate into the jar. I usually fill the jar to the top without packing it. Then I hit the bottom of the jar a few times and it will compress to the correct density and allow room for the verm layer.




I used a typical verm layer with an added layer of tyvek along with the metal lid. Straight tyvek allows too much moisture loss and the cake will dry out and stall.


Fill the steamer with water, it is actually better to use distilled in here but any will work.
I think its hot


Calibrate the thermometer for the test run


Put the jars in and fire it up


Looky here, 212, perfect. The cool thing about the vegetable steamer is that water will not splash up and ruin your cakes.


I wish I would have bought a bigger steamer now.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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Why would you need to use distilled water to make these cakes? And why in the world would you need to use a specific BRAND of distilled water??? :confused:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
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I think the water thing is a joke? Ive used all types of water. Even water I wouldnt drink due to too much iron, and things.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: legallyhomeless]
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because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it


arent you already? :wink: kiiidding


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it


I thought you were off your nut. So I guess you are not really suggesting people pack their jars down by slamming them down on the table, either... :crazy2:

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
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Mad River said:
I thought you were off your nut. So I guess you are not really suggesting people pack their jars down by slamming them down on the table, either... :crazy2:


I never did suggest that. I said i hit the bottom. I didnt say to slam them on the table


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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ding, i just heard the timer go off


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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keep the updates acomin'

anyone else try this? if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?

Edited by chrisnh (06/28/08 07:07 PM)

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
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chrisnh said:
keep the updates acomin'

anyone else try this? if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?


It does work, it held 212 degrees for over an hour. It works just as good as simmering the cakes in a pot for an hour.

Now for the why would anyone use a pc question??? You still have a lot to learn


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
Now for the why would anyone use a pc question??? You still have a lot to learn


i guess our difference in thinking on this is the definition of "works". if this works, and it's certainly easier than boiling in a pot, which i've also heard some say doesn't work very well. then the only advantage to a PC would be size. i mean, if this works and by works i mean kills all contaims then that means it works as good as a pc. if it doesn't kill all, meaning it doesn't work as good as a pc, then that means it doesn't work for this purpose.  personally, i hope it does work, cheaper and easier that's for sure. although slower. got my fingers crossed for ya

Edited by chrisnh (06/28/08 07:21 PM)

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
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okay, i follow you now. The pc gets hotter, shorter cook times, thorough cooking. The pc is always the best bet. This works good in lets say a dorm room and it much safer than using a hot plate.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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ok, gotcha. it's encouraging to know. so many of us are not interested in huge grows. and often the same experienced growers that insist that you have to use a PC no matter what and that you should get the biggest one money can buy, because it's so much faster and easier than using a small one, are the same ones that scream about how this is a hobby of patience. and it certainly is.
since this performs the job of 100% sterilization as well as a PC, what's a little extra time when you have to stare at fully colonized jars for a week before birthing them?
if that is the model i think it is, there is a 75 min timer. i assumed you set it for the max?

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
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i set it for the max (75) but I turned it back to 75 after it heated up to 212. AS for the sterilization differences between a pc and boiling brf cakes I would say that boiling/steaming is 99% and pc'ing is 99.999% Pc is always better but I do not remember ever having contams due to lack of sterilization when doing cakes with a regular pot but this is 10 years ago.

This is the one I have its bout 30$ and will only fit 4 jars. its almost big enough to layer them but not quite.
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-84.html


This one is bigger, looks like you might be able to get 2 layers or none
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-350.html

This is the no joke real deal 12 1/2 pints at a time cooker.
Perfect for the dorm room.
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-348.html

Cool thing about these is that there will be no smoke


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


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Teh=The
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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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http://www.target.com/West-Bend-Programmable-Food-Steamer/dp/B0011E30V0/sr=1-14/qid=1214704394/ref=sr_1_14/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Asteamer&page=1

http://www.target.com/Toastess-3-Tier-Stainless-Programmable-Steamer/dp/B000UMJOBO/sr=1-18/qid=1214704394/ref=sr_1_18/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Asteamer&page=1

http://www.target.com/Oster-6-1-qt-Food-Steamer/dp/B000BH96AW/sr=1-4/qid=1214704394/ref=sr_1_4/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Asteamer&page=1

http://www.target.com/Oster-Digital-Food-Steamer-Black/dp/B0012S8OVQ/qid=1214704526/ref=br_1_14/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&node=3518671&frombrowse=1&index=tgt-mf-mv&rank=price&rh=&page=1


http://www.target.com/Deni-Stainless-Steel-3-Tier-Steamer/dp/B000IHXA2A/qid=1214704556/ref=br_1_31/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&node=3518671&frombrowse=1&pricerange=&index=tgt-mf-mv&field-browse=3518671&rank=price&rh=&page=1

http://www.target.com/West-Bend-Programmable-Food-Steamer/dp/B0011E30V0/qid=1214704556/ref=br_1_32/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&node=3518671&frombrowse=1&pricerange=&index=tgt-mf-mv&field-browse=3518671&rank=price&rh=&page=1

and just since the lobster is trying to get out
http://www.target.com/BroilKing-1600-Watt-Jumbo-Steamer/dp/B001AMK5JS/qid=1214704556/ref=br_1_65/602-4132672-3068606?ie=UTF8&node=3518671&frombrowse=1&pricerange=&index=tgt-mf-mv&field-browse=3518671&rank=price&rh=&page=1


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


My Legacy
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987

Teh=The
I need to proofread

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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B&D double on @ amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-HS2776-Double-Decker-Flavor-Scenter/dp/B0009AFW0Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1214704810&sr=1-2

triples brand? @ walmart
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9222982
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9222966

just a matter of maker sure you can fit 4 in each tray. someone might have to make a trip tomorrow.

this would work with bags,syringes, etc also i'd assume. is there anything that requires pressure? would you want your jar lids a little looser than you would if using a PC?  thanks :smile:

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
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i wonder.. will this work for pasteurization? for like poo bags and stuff

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Reedviper]
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I dunno... that substrate looks kinda Fishy to me... to say the least.

What type of Verm and flour did you use? since your so specific about the water?

that looks like kitty litter... or something:confused:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
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you have a good point. Its top secret brf from a local health food store and its verm from lowes. I can sell you guys the brf for 5$ a pound. Remember, its the only type that will work


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


My Legacy
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987

Teh=The
I need to proofread

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
you have a good point. Its top secret brf from a local health food store and its verm from lowes. I can sell you guys the brf for 5$ a pound. Remember, its the only type that will work


So you're saying that you have to have special water and verm for this "steamer tek" to work? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. You're kidding right?


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