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Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style
    #8575077 - 06/28/08 07:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have been asked if these type of vegetable steamers would work for sterilizing brf/verm cakes.
I wish mine would hold more cakes


I have always assumed that they would work but I have never taken to  the time nor have I seen a post where someone has used one. I had a little free time today so i put a few cakes together. I used a basic brf/verm cake recipe. Any recipe will work but the only important thing is to use distilled water. you can only use distilled water when making brf/verm cakes. All other types of water will kill the mushroom mycelium. It has to be this brand also.


Here is something a lot of people screw up on. Its the packing of substrate into the jar. I usually fill the jar to the top without packing it. Then I hit the bottom of the jar a few times and it will compress to the correct density and allow room for the verm layer.




I used a typical verm layer with an added layer of tyvek along with the metal lid. Straight tyvek allows too much moisture loss and the cake will dry out and stall.


Fill the steamer with water, it is actually better to use distilled in here but any will work.
I think its hot


Calibrate the thermometer for the test run


Put the jars in and fire it up


Looky here, 212, perfect. The cool thing about the vegetable steamer is that water will not splash up and ruin your cakes.


I wish I would have bought a bigger steamer now.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575100 - 06/28/08 08:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Why would you need to use distilled water to make these cakes? And why in the world would you need to use a specific BRAND of distilled water??? :confused:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8575106 - 06/28/08 08:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think the water thing is a joke? Ive used all types of water. Even water I wouldnt drink due to too much iron, and things.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8575123 - 06/28/08 08:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575125 - 06/28/08 08:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it




arent you already? :wink: kiiidding


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575132 - 06/28/08 08:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it




I thought you were off your nut. So I guess you are not really suggesting people pack their jars down by slamming them down on the table, either... :crazy2:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8575142 - 06/28/08 08:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought you were off your nut. So I guess you are not really suggesting people pack their jars down by slamming them down on the table, either... :crazy2:



I never did suggest that. I said i hit the bottom. I didnt say to slam them on the table


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575163 - 06/28/08 08:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ding, i just heard the timer go off


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575241 - 06/28/08 08:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

keep the updates acomin'

anyone else try this? if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8575288 - 06/28/08 09:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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keep the updates acomin'

anyone else try this? if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?




It does work, it held 212 degrees for over an hour. It works just as good as simmering the cakes in a pot for an hour.

Now for the why would anyone use a pc question??? You still have a lot to learn


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575311 - 06/28/08 09:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Now for the why would anyone use a pc question??? You still have a lot to learn




i guess our difference in thinking on this is the definition of "works". if this works, and it's certainly easier than boiling in a pot, which i've also heard some say doesn't work very well. then the only advantage to a PC would be size. i mean, if this works and by works i mean kills all contaims then that means it works as good as a pc. if it doesn't kill all, meaning it doesn't work as good as a pc, then that means it doesn't work for this purpose.  personally, i hope it does work, cheaper and easier that's for sure. although slower. got my fingers crossed for ya


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8575323 - 06/28/08 09:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

okay, i follow you now. The pc gets hotter, shorter cook times, thorough cooking. The pc is always the best bet. This works good in lets say a dorm room and it much safer than using a hot plate.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575370 - 06/28/08 09:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ok, gotcha. it's encouraging to know. so many of us are not interested in huge grows. and often the same experienced growers that insist that you have to use a PC no matter what and that you should get the biggest one money can buy, because it's so much faster and easier than using a small one, are the same ones that scream about how this is a hobby of patience. and it certainly is.
since this performs the job of 100% sterilization as well as a PC, what's a little extra time when you have to stare at fully colonized jars for a week before birthing them?
if that is the model i think it is, there is a 75 min timer. i assumed you set it for the max?


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8575415 - 06/28/08 09:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i set it for the max (75) but I turned it back to 75 after it heated up to 212. AS for the sterilization differences between a pc and boiling brf cakes I would say that boiling/steaming is 99% and pc'ing is 99.999% Pc is always better but I do not remember ever having contams due to lack of sterilization when doing cakes with a regular pot but this is 10 years ago.

This is the one I have its bout 30$ and will only fit 4 jars. its almost big enough to layer them but not quite.
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-84.html


This one is bigger, looks like you might be able to get 2 layers or none
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-350.html

This is the no joke real deal 12 1/2 pints at a time cooker.
Perfect for the dorm room.
http://www.blackanddeckerappliances.com/product-348.html

Cool thing about these is that there will be no smoke


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575425 - 06/28/08 09:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8575449 - 06/28/08 10:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

B&D double on @ amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-HS2776-Double-Decker-Flavor-Scenter/dp/B0009AFW0Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1214704810&sr=1-2

triples brand? @ walmart
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9222982
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9222966

just a matter of maker sure you can fit 4 in each tray. someone might have to make a trip tomorrow.

this would work with bags,syringes, etc also i'd assume. is there anything that requires pressure? would you want your jar lids a little looser than you would if using a PC?  thanks :smile:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8575483 - 06/28/08 10:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i wonder.. will this work for pasteurization? for like poo bags and stuff


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Reedviper]
    #8576043 - 06/29/08 02:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno... that substrate looks kinda Fishy to me... to say the least.

What type of Verm and flour did you use? since your so specific about the water?

that looks like kitty litter... or something:confused:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
    #8576073 - 06/29/08 02:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you have a good point. Its top secret brf from a local health food store and its verm from lowes. I can sell you guys the brf for 5$ a pound. Remember, its the only type that will work


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8576077 - 06/29/08 02:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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you have a good point. Its top secret brf from a local health food store and its verm from lowes. I can sell you guys the brf for 5$ a pound. Remember, its the only type that will work




So you're saying that you have to have special water and verm for this "steamer tek" to work? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. You're kidding right?


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: tahoe]
    #8576083 - 06/29/08 02:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

WTF.

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8576086 - 06/29/08 02:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

AND SPECIAL $5.00 a POUND BRF!!!

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8576091 - 06/29/08 02:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yep... i see the lowes verm... so tell me... is the Nestle Quik involved in some way?


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
    #8576122 - 06/29/08 02:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well you all have heard of coffee helping things out. You should try artificial chocolate


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    #8576123 - 06/29/08 02:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: deucedbi9]
    #8576145 - 06/29/08 02:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hey Noob Slayer nice Tek :mushroom2:

hows it goin over there!!

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8576158 - 06/29/08 03:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"top secret brf" .. hahaa, wtf


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    #8576200 - 06/29/08 03:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

with all the joking of brand name water and secret brf, i'm starting to wonder if the whole tek is a joke


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8576518 - 06/29/08 07:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the water thing is a joke? Ive used all types of water. Even water I wouldnt drink due to too much iron, and things.




OT; while searching google images for pics of mycelium, i found your two pics of the flowhood's on the 2nd page: http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1B2GGFB_enGB277GB277&q=mycelium+cubensis&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20
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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8576682 - 06/29/08 09:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?






Tahoe is doing cakes(brf) not grains(wbs, rye, millet).
You need a PC for grains not for BRF cakes. You can do all the jars of BRF you want in a pot of boiling water, but you can't do jars full of grains that way. Not safely anyway.You need pressure and higher temps, more than a pot of boiling water can give, to effectively kill all those endospores in the grains.
You have to, at least, use steam to sterilize BRF , but, you have to use pressure and higher temps and steam to sterilize grains. Although some will disagree and say that "Fractional Steam Sterilization" works also(but, not for me). A steamer will not work for grains, or at least it won't work in Doc's world.

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    #8576730 - 06/29/08 10:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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if it works why would anyone want to use a pressure cooker?






Tahoe is doing cakes(brf) not grains(wbs, rye, millet).
You need a PC for grains not for BRF cakes. 




after starting to question it a little(due to some other more obvious jokes in the thread), i did a little research(and by research i mean i looked for posts here about steamers that RR gave an opinion on) and he seems to agree with doc. RR's quote: "Can it run for two hours without shutting down? If so, use it."

so there we have it :smile:  if the timer can't handle 120 mins, just turn it back up before it stops so that it will equal 120 min.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8578222 - 06/29/08 08:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

as luck would have it, my g/f has one of these. gave it a test run. filled it with water and put the tray in and closed it up. steams up like hell. however i put a cooking thermometer in there and it reads 210 steady.  not sure how accurate it is, i filled a big insulated cup with as much ice as it would hold then filled with water and let it sit for a couple minutes and it read 35. so i'm guess it's accurate. is 210 close enough?


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: chrisnh]
    #8583755 - 07/01/08 01:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

turns out the 210 was actually from water splashing, now that the splash guard is in, the air temps only go to about 190. if left in there for 90 mins once 190 is hit, is that enough time/heat if you are only doing brf jars? thanks :smile:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8583850 - 07/01/08 02:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

he's just taking a stab at the massive profit some sponsors are making off of cheap, easily available materials b/c people are simply to lazy to do 20 minutes work.  Instead they spend $40-60/lb for substrate- before shipping,etc.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: MycoAu]
    #8649150 - 07/18/08 12:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the jars sat until july 12 and were still good. i inoculated them with some oysters on the 12th,

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8649191 - 07/18/08 01:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

lol this steam tek is just like any other steam tek.. I don't see why you would need special verm or water


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: infestedpasta]
    #8669528 - 07/22/08 11:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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lol this steam tek is just like any other steam tek.. I don't see why you would need special verm or water




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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: FooMan]
    #8669554 - 07/23/08 12:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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lol this steam tek is just like any other steam tek.. I don't see why you would need special verm or water




Read the whole thread and it may make more sense to you.




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special water??!? WTF Yeah right


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
    #8669570 - 07/23/08 12:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This thread serves only to confuse people and I'm sure spawn countless confused newb threads.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8669591 - 07/23/08 12:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

so the water part was a joke? or no?

sigh..


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8669602 - 07/23/08 12:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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This thread serves only to confuse people and I'm sure spawn countless confused newb threads.




Exactally my thoughts... nothing here but Mis-information being carried on by someone who thinks they know it all, and that any water is different from any other water... unless its distilled its just water and i have used water from the fish tank before to make PF tek's and it worked just fine....

Mis-information is the key to noob questions just like B+ is a "noob" strain too... Bull Shit.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
    #8669633 - 07/23/08 12:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

in the interest of science we should probably stop bumping this thread. but since theres so much crap posted here daily anyways..


bump.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: themange]
    #8669636 - 07/23/08 12:26 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if joke is the right word, but it wasn't serious.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8669725 - 07/23/08 12:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to be off topic, but I gotta say, nice set of Henckels. :rockon:


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    #8669735 - 07/23/08 12:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Oh shit, I didn't realize somebody bumped. :repost:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #8669870 - 07/23/08 01:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Please don't bump me with your Henckels; they're pointy!

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: P.Menace]
    #8670023 - 07/23/08 02:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

FooMan said:
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infestedpasta said:
lol this steam tek is just like any other steam tek.. I don't see why you would need special verm or water




Read the whole thread and it may make more sense to you.




Or not...
special water??!? WTF Yeah right




Apparently you still haven't read the ENTIRE thread or maybe you aren't comprehending something. The water thing was a JOKE. Let me break it down for you since you seem to be missing the key posts.

First:

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I think the water thing is a joke? Ive used all types of water. Even water I wouldnt drink due to too much iron, and things.




Tahoe responded with:

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tahoe said:
because there is so much false info floating around here that I feel that I need to be responsible;e for some of it




Anyone familiar with Tahoe's posts knows he likes to post funny shit like this to throw people for a loop. The way this thread played out is EXACTLY what Tahoe was shooting for.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: FooMan]
    #8670043 - 07/23/08 02:17 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever. I don't think it's funny, and there's no doubt that people will read the first post and skip a lot of the rest, then post confused newb questions about what brand of water is best and what's the best dingle dangle to fling in their flim flammer.

If the whole thing was a joke, that's be one thing. And the fact that tahoe usually has decent advice just makes it worse.
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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8670072 - 07/23/08 02:26 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Man, you guys are a bit uptight about this. It's one sentence in one post that will be buried under the many "How come I don't see myc? It's been like 24 hours." threads. Like Tahoe said, there is plenty of misinformation here anyway. The difference is that Tahoe explained that it was joke. If some noob reads that and begins only using distilled water, then it's his fault for not doing more than 30 seconds of reading.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: FooMan]
    #8670080 - 07/23/08 02:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Okay. :bigjoint:


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8670142 - 07/23/08 02:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So, I should only use distilled water?


Lol couldn't help it.

You're funny Mad River, (for a gambling man :wink:).


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8670624 - 07/23/08 07:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Whatever. I don't think it's funny, and there's no doubt that people will read the first post and skip a lot of the rest, then post confused newb questions about what brand of water is best and what's the best dingle dangle to fling in their flim flammer.

If the whole thing was a joke, that's be one thing. And the fact that tahoe usually has decent advice just makes it worse.
                        :cryariver:





If someone actually believes that a only a particular brand of water works, or you can only use a pot to steam jars or that you can only do pftek in the dorm; then they deserve the results that they get.

Tahoe good call on pointing out that steam is steam it doesn't really matter where it came from.

all you other bitches, get over it less than 15 words of satire and everybodies panties are in a wad. :calledajoke:

just something that I wanted to add.

when I lived on campus I "steamed" pf jars in several unique locations.

Various steam outlets to the universities mass HVAC system.
An autoclave that was in one of the random unused classrooms.
and a few others that arn't quite as interesting.

The point is be creative
and
if you only read one tek then you don't really deserve results.

that is unless you use Tahoe's(trademark) Brown Rice flour, walmart distilled water and verm from lowes. then you deserve one pound dry off a 1/2 pint cake.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: perosiste]
    #8670756 - 07/23/08 09:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

this thread is proof that OTD and pub should be combined, giving both shitholes something to do and fight over other than come into culti and crap on it.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: themange]
    #8670760 - 07/23/08 09:13 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

oh, and i meant shithole in a good way.

like: :"Did you see the shithole on that biotch? dammmmmn!!"

so dont flame me or downrate me please.

or do.

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: perosiste]
    #8670929 - 07/23/08 11:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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If someone actually believes that a only a particular brand of water works, or you can only use a pot to steam jars or that you can only do pftek in the dorm; then they deserve the results that they get.





True enough.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Mad River]
    #8670958 - 07/23/08 11:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

im glad were laying traps for any newcomers. good thinking.

your right, if anyone is dumb enough to believe something they read on this website, they must be trippin or something.

oh wait no they're not because they're to busy trying to zoom in on the picture and see what brand of water is being used.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: themange]
    #8671315 - 07/23/08 01:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have special trousers that sterilize my whole outfit. i do pf-tel in these pants and i never sterilize anything and i always get fungus! yay.




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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8671601 - 07/23/08 02:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the jumpsuit works better because you dont have to worry about getting back/chest hair in the brf.

this eliminates most causes of overlay.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: themange]
    #8672439 - 07/23/08 05:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I made a tyvek jumpsuit and I wear a foil hat shaped like a pyramid with a mushroom on top


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    #8672471 - 07/23/08 05:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the pyramid design is o000ld, noone uses it anymore. its all about n-dimensional hypercubes. obviously you've never done a live tissue transfer, i can tell by your trade rating.


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8672652 - 07/23/08 06:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

How long will you play cat and mouse for with the 16 year olds?

Like you say, this should be renamed the "stealthy dorm room helth-food tek!"


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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: FooMan]
    #8673421 - 07/23/08 09:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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It's one sentence in one post that will be buried under the many "How come I don't see myc? It's been like 24 hours." threads.




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8672883#Post8672883

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8673304#Post8673304

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Re: Black and Decker Vegetable Steamer Tech!! PF Style [Re: FooMan]
    #8673963 - 07/24/08 12:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

lol:naughty:


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