Veritas said:

You know, when someone is done massaging your back & they ask you to roll over so that they can massage the "other side"? 

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Ahhh... now that's something to talk about!

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The... other... side?

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I mean with this words the spirit world or the world of the dead.

I have a picture! Its different to take drugs as women or as men.

Veritas said:

Especially with scented oil...

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And let's not forget about spankings

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Its different to take drugs as women or as men.

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For the friend who has not visited the side of the dead its accessible by DMT or ayahuasca.

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...or so it seems to the experiencer. 

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and shes a you know what.

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albien5 said:

Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?

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Veritas said:

I would choose a woman, as she would be more likely to introspect afterward & gain something from her experience.  Men may be more likely use psychedelics, but IME they are more likely to view their experiences as purely recreational.  "Whoa!  That was wild, duude!" 

Women, in general, tend to be more introspective than men.  Their emotionality is less likely to result in violent behavior, so I would not be concerned with the safety of others around them.  Men, on the other hand, are much more likely to engage in violent behavior when experiencing intense emotions, so I would be concerned about giving acid to a totally inexperienced male subject.

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I think it wise to assess the would-be entheogenic explorer. In Susan Zannos' Gurdjieffian enneagrammatic model (Human Types), I am a "King of Hearts" which is 1 of 12 typologies. I operate in 'the intellectual aspect of the emotional center.' I would be a safer bet to trip with than another type of male who might be coming from the 'mechanical aspect of the instinctive center' (Jack of Clubs), or the 'mechanical aspect of the moving center' (Jack of Spades), or even a King of Spades who would perhaps be a crazed martial artist coming from the 'intellectual aspect of the moving center.' The point here is that in a very determined sense, a lot of how we (as male and female) process the entheogenic experience is typological. A King of Hearts, or conversely, a Queen of Diamonds, like my Lady Rose ('emotional aspect of the intellectual center') can handle entheogens in B-cognizing, self-actualizing way.

Last Sunday I took Rose to a gun show at Ft. Lauderdale's War Memorial Auditorium. I saw a woman: camouflage-wearing, hunting rifle slung-on-shoulder, bandana around head, totally into her high-powered rifle hunting trip - a Queen of Clubs by my reckoning ('emotional aspect of the instinctual center'). I don't know about you, but there are a lot of male types that might be obnoxious on trips, but maybe not as scary as a scared Queen of Clubs on acid!

As 1/2 of a Black-White couple, I all-too-often have to clarify to people that the differences usually attributed to color have nothing to do with color, but rather with class, and here I would like to point out that in addition to the variables of maturity and self-control, typology trumps gender in overall significance.

I could have used MBTI examples, but I picked up Zannos' book last night and this morning. It's a very interesting and useful model for the phenomenology of types. Plus, I hardly ever sound like a California surfer-stoner