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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #8538005 - 06/18/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I agree that personality would be a better indication of which individual would be best able to handle LSD.  However, as we were not given any information beyond sex, I would choose to blatantly generalize & "dose" the woman.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
    #8538043 - 06/18/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

For my own answer, I would give the acid to the man, because just on a statistical basis I think the man would be less likely to have his emotional center thrown off balance.  You do make a good argument though and it's one I hadn't considered.


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8538204 - 06/18/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i dont have any statistics handy but from the statistics i have seen, men are much more likely to use drugs (and more likely to use drugs heavily) than woman. that would explain why more men use psychedelics.

so you'd have to narrow the population down to just drug users to see whether men or more likely to use psychedelics. in my experiences with female drug users, they have been just as likely as male drug users to use psychedelics.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8538210 - 06/18/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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For my own answer, I would give the acid to the man, because just on a statistical basis I think the man would be less likely to have his emotional center thrown off balance.  You do make a good argument though and it's one I hadn't considered.




i also say give it to the man. men are the experimenters (generally speaking), they are more expendable and take more risks, often to their own detriment.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8538648 - 06/18/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

It does seem to me that most of those who take psychedelics (not including marijuana) are men. I know plenty of girls who smoke or have smoked weed but almost none who have or will try psychedelics. Perhaps, they realize the social stigma of trying a psychedelic and after weighing the pros and cons, opted to focus more on other things.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Boots]
    #8539267 - 06/19/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Wow.

I think this thread broke my brain.

After reading this sausage fest of a thread, I can once again see why more women don't hang out at The Shroomery, and I can also see why a lot of y'all can't seem to find many oppertunities to trip with the opposite sex. :naughty:

As for women being too emotional to trip... that is beyond bullshit... it is a narrow way to view both women AND tripping.

Based on reading this thread... my nod goes to the chicks. Dose 'em all!

While they're dosing... the guys will have finally have some time to surf the net for porn.


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Rose]
    #8539493 - 06/19/08 02:28 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Rose]
    #8539755 - 06/19/08 05:41 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Wow.

I think this thread broke my brain.

After reading this sausage fest of a thread, I can once again see why more women don't hang out at The Shroomery, and I can also see why a lot of y'all can't seem to find many oppertunities to trip with the opposite sex. :naughty:

As for women being too emotional to trip... that is beyond bullshit... it is a narrow way to view both women AND tripping.

Based on reading this thread... my nod goes to the chicks. Dose 'em all!

While they're dosing... the guys will have finally have some time to surf the net for porn.




You can say what you want...my experiences, the experiences of people I know, and the experiences of people on this site support what I'm saying.  It's hard to say this without sounding sexist, but most girls in the world today just aren't as prepared for a psychedelic experience, at least at my age (18-20ish).  Of course I'm generalizing, that's the whole point, but I was just offering an explanation as to why less women use psychedelics then men (and just guessing, I would assume statistics support that assertion).


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8539765 - 06/19/08 06:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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as to why less women use psychedelics




*fewer women* :rolleyes:


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8539841 - 06/19/08 06:46 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:awesome:


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8539940 - 06/19/08 07:36 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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And i am not gay!




Your avatar says it all.... gay....

sorry, just had to add this to the thread, as off topic as it is.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Platinum]
    #8539946 - 06/19/08 07:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Women don't need to trip, owning a vagina 24/7 causes mass hallucinations itself. :smirk:


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8539969 - 06/19/08 07:47 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

hahaha very true. more delusional, but hallucinations... sure.

Edited by Platinum (06/19/08 07:48 AM)

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Platinum]
    #8540008 - 06/19/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i don't think there's any physiological or anatomical difference between men and women that would result in a different attitude/experimence while tripping.

However, I am cautious in saying that men and women are completely equal when it comes to tripping. Unfortunately, women have been psychologically and socially conditioned to numerous mindsets. I feel that a lot of women are still, relatively, stuck within their social stigmas and some may think experimenting with psychedelic drugs to be a 'mans job.' I'm not saying women are less capable or whatever when it comes to tripping--i'd feel completely comfortable dosing some awesome feminist who demands equality between the sexes--but unfortunately many women still are conditioned to taking the side-seat to men. Therefore, I'd be cautious dosing an 'average woman' because of the pre-psychological mechanics worked onto her brain.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: AnarchoTrip]
    #8540031 - 06/19/08 08:12 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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However, I am cautious in saying that men and women are completely equal when it comes to tripping. Unfortunately, women have been psychologically and socially conditioned to numerous mindsets. I feel that a lot of women are still, relatively, stuck within their social stigmas and some may think experimenting with psychedelic drugs to be a 'mans job.' I'm not saying women are less capable or whatever when it comes to tripping--i'd feel completely comfortable dosing some awesome feminist who demands equality between the sexes--but unfortunately many women still are conditioned to taking the side-seat to men. Therefore, I'd be cautious dosing an 'average woman' because of the pre-psychological mechanics worked onto her brain.






I agree with your idea about social conditioning but for different reasons.  Lots of times, women, especially of the younger variety I assume, aren't nearly as used to being intellectually accountable.  WAIT I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SEXIST but just hear me out.  Especially in the case of attractive girls, men just agree with everything they have to say and don't ever really challenge them intellectually.  In school, although a girl is expected to do just as well in the class grade-wise, I've noticed that professors and teachers rarely challenge girls as much as guys when it comes to extremely though provoking questions.  Of course if a girl comes along (as they do in semi frequent numbers) that is every bit as critical and analytical as her male counterparts, the teacher is ecstatic, but that's besides the point.

When you take a psychedelic drug, all of a sudden you're accountable for your own thoughts in a way a person who has never tripped can't even imagine.  I don't have to tell most people on this sight how uncomfortable it can be to have your defense mechanisms ripped to shreds over the course of a 45 minute come-up. I really do think that process would be more difficult and less appealing in any sense to lots of women. I don't know, maybe this is latent societal sexism showing itself in what I'm saying, but based on what I've observed, the average woman is less prepared for a psychedelic experience than the average man.


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: AnarchoTrip]
    #8540294 - 06/19/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I'd be reluctant to trip with someone of either sex who has abdicated responsibility for their own experiences.  I think that this is just as common among men as it is among women, though it may be demonstrated differently by the sexes. 

My experiences with psychedelics have ALL been great.  In fact, I'm more likely to be the one doing the calming and centering when I trip with others.  I enjoy salvia very much, though it seems to be too intense and "freaky" for most of the men I've talked to about it.  Few of them want to try it more than once.

Of course, I would fit into the category of a "feminist who demands equality between the sexes," and I define myself as human before female.  I doubt whether one's XX or XY chromosomes make them more or less suited to be a psychonaut.  As Markos mentioned, individual personality traits are much more important than whether you are an "innie" or an "outie."

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #8541090 - 06/19/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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guruu said:It's hard to say this without sounding sexist, but most girls in the world today just aren't as prepared for a psychedelic experience, at least at my age (18-20ish).



Thank you for sharing your extensive and deep knowledge about women. I have always been wondering about how women's minds work, collectively I mean. Finally the truth has been revealed. This information will be very useful.

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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Rhizoid]
    #8541298 - 06/19/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

That was a pretty bland attempt at sarcasm, guy.

:lol:


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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Asante]
    #8541426 - 06/19/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Testosterone:  Now with Carbon!  :smile:


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