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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
#8541435 - 06/19/08 04:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good find! Same molecule, two ways of drawing
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#8541453 - 06/19/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like to be specific.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8541465 - 06/19/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?
Probably because their wimpier than men and care less about true introspection.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: sunflower]
#8541570 - 06/19/08 05:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you Mrs. Huehue or his mistress?
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His boss
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: sunflower]
#8541675 - 06/19/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not hardly...
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: sunflower]
#8541899 - 06/19/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Welcome Mrs. Coyotl. I think you are the only one that can keep his massive ego in check.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
#8542493 - 06/19/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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albien5 said: Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?
What the fuck does this even mean?
This thread sucks fat asshole.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8545384 - 06/20/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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albien5 said: Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?
You probably can't ask that question here and get an accurate answer.
1. Most of the Shroomery members are male, which means their answers would be speculation.
2. I assume most women here have some interest in psychdelics, making them biased.
If you want a better answer survey women who aren't interested in psychedelics and let them tell you. Unless, of course, you have a special meaning for the word 'serious'.
And how is this question philosophical or spiritual?
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this thread simply sucks fat asshole.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
#8545498 - 06/20/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Veritas said: I'd be reluctant to trip with someone of either sex who has abdicated responsibility for their own experiences. I think that this is just as common among men as it is among women, though it may be demonstrated differently by the sexes.
My experiences with psychedelics have ALL been great. In fact, I'm more likely to be the one doing the calming and centering when I trip with others. I enjoy salvia very much, though it seems to be too intense and "freaky" for most of the men I've talked to about it. Few of them want to try it more than once.
Of course, I would fit into the category of a "feminist who demands equality between the sexes," and I define myself as human before female. I doubt whether one's XX or XY chromosomes make them more or less suited to be a psychonaut. As Markos mentioned, individual personality traits are much more important than whether you are an "innie" or an "outie."
salvia is too intense and feaky for most of the people ive talked to about it too, regardless of their gender. i am amazed you are able to enjoy it.
anyway, no one really responded to my first point. no one has provided any evidence beyond their limited experiences that female drug users are less likely to use psychedelics then male drug users.
from my limited experiences, this doesn't seem to be true at all. i know more males who use drugs than females but of the people i know who use drugs most of them have tried a psychedelic or expressed interest in trying a psychedelic at some point regardless of their sex.
i think you people are just confusing the fact that far more males use drugs and use drugs more heavily than females and thinking with thinking that females somehow can't handle psychedelic ones as well.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: porcupine]
#8545671 - 06/20/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think this thread needs some facts. Time to do some research...
MONITORING THE FUTURE NATIONAL SURVEY RESULTS ON DRUG USE, 1975-2004 Volume II - College Students and Adults Ages 19-45 The University of Michigan Institute for Social Research http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/pubs/monographs/vol2_2004.pdf
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• Among young adults, more males than females report using any illicit drug during the prior year (35% versus 29%). Males have higher annual prevalence rates for nearly all of the specific illicit drugs—with ratios greater than 2 for steroids and inhalants. For example, among the 19- to 30-year-olds, steroids were used by 0.6% of males versus 0.2% of females during the prior 12 months. (See Table 4-1.)
• All forms of cocaine were used in the past year by more males than females (19- to 30-yearolds). Annual cocaine use was reported by 8.7% of the males and 5.0% of the females, crack use by 1.6% of the males and 0.9% of the females, and other cocaine use by 7.8% of the males and 4.7% of the females.
• Other large gender differences among the 19- to 30-year-olds are found in daily marijuana use (6.3% for males versus 3.3% for females in 2004), daily alcohol use (7.6% versus 2.2%), and occasions of drinking five or more drinks in a row in the prior two weeks (47% versus 28%). This gender difference in occasions of heavy drinking is even greater among young adults than among 12th graders, where it is 34% for males versus 24% for females.
• MDMA (ecstasy) use is only slightly higher among males than among females in the young adult sample overall (annual prevalence 3.5% versus 2.8%, respectively).
• The use of narcotics other than heroin is fairly close, at 9.9% annual prevalence for males vs. 7.3% for females. Use of Vicodin, one of the most widely used drugs in the class, is also fairly close (10.8% versus 7.1%). There is a larger gender contrast for OxyContin (annual prevalence of 3.9% for males versus 2.0% for females).
• The use of amphetamines, which is now about equivalent among males and females in high school, is also fairly similar for both genders in this post-high school period (annual prevalence of 6.1% versus 5.3%, respectively).
• Crystal methamphetamine (ice) is used by small, and roughly similar, percentages of both genders (1.8% annual prevalence for males versus 1.2% for females).
• LSD use by males is over three times that of females (1.3% annual prevalence for males versus 0.4% for females).
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: zouden]
#8546385 - 06/21/08 02:54 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most of the girls I know are more into pot and pills. I do know some that trip, but not very often.
Maria Sabina got rather famous for her mushroom healing.
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• LSD use by males is over three times that of females (1.3% annual prevalence for males versus 0.4% for females).
This is telling a lot. The other drugs from the report provided by zouden are close % the males to females. But the only authentic psychedelic in the research LSD is less used by the females. The other drugs which are dopamine related are used almost the same by the male/female. This shows that women wants to have good time and ignore the psychedelic 'world'. Maybe this makes the women not involve in serious with psychedelics which doesnt have a lot of fun!
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Asante
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8547127 - 06/21/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is telling a lot.
Indeed this is telling a lot! one in four users is a woman, but only one in ten shroomerites is one. Why are they underrepresented here?
Same with gays. Psychedelics are much more prevalent under gays thasn straights, yet aside from myself and a few other token homos theres barely any on our site.
Trippers over 30? Too few of them here.
The shroomery isn't a representative population is what I'm saying.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#8547624 - 06/21/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Which 'straight' here will volunteer to go gay to balance out the group? One of you must be willing to make the sacrifice.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#8548173 - 06/21/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Indeed this is telling a lot! one in four users is a woman, but only one in ten shroomerites is one. Why are they underrepresented here?
Same with gays. Psychedelics are much more prevalent under gays thasn straights, yet aside from myself and a few other token homos theres barely any on our site.
Trippers over 30? Too few of them here.
The shroomery isn't a representative population is what I'm saying.
I think these statistical discrepancies have their source in the people that use the internet the most, which is younger males usually.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
#8548319 - 06/21/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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guruu said:
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Indeed this is telling a lot! one in four users is a woman, but only one in ten shroomerites is one. Why are they underrepresented here?
Same with gays. Psychedelics are much more prevalent under gays thasn straights, yet aside from myself and a few other token homos theres barely any on our site.
Trippers over 30? Too few of them here.
The shroomery isn't a representative population is what I'm saying.
I think these statistical discrepancies have their source in the people that use the internet the most, which is younger males usually.
I think that more females than males have a myspace though.
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