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albien5
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Womem and psychedelics
#8536265 - 06/18/08 05:37 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536281 - 06/18/08 05:58 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Huh?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: zouden]
#8536292 - 06/18/08 06:07 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Never read any book or article about psychedelics by women. And no women will reply to this article. Why?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536306 - 06/18/08 06:32 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, a few women will reply to this. But I see your point, that this forum is mostly inhabited by men, and psychedelic research is mostly done by men.
But that's nothing to do with women not liking psychedelics: most forums are inhabited by men, and most research (in any field) is done by men. The women are doing other things, like building relationships.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: zouden]
#8536313 - 06/18/08 06:37 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes good point!
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536591 - 06/18/08 09:34 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Females are definetly involved with research. This publication may ring a bell
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
I'd like to see the statistics for drug use in general, and if women (on average) use less.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: badchad]
#8536670 - 06/18/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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According to http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus07.pdf#066 for drug use the ratio for year 2005 is 10,2:6,1 for men : women almost the double.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536679 - 06/18/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Houston
Classic text. Mine was autographed in the late 70s when I spent a weekend at a workshop with Jean.
BTW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Huxley
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536819 - 06/18/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
albien5 said: Why women doesn't involve in serious with psychedelics?
My favorite person does and shes a you know what.
What exactly do you mean by serious?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Icelander]
#8536835 - 06/18/08 11:18 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think women are less likely to use psychedelics frequently, as they are more emotional and probably have more of a tendency to flip out while tripping. Not to generalize or anything
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
#8536836 - 06/18/08 11:19 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you base this assertion on experience or supposition?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
#8536852 - 06/18/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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The women I mentioned is rock solid on psychedelics.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Icelander]
#8536867 - 06/18/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well ok i respect the other sex, i have heard a lot of women speak about the other side and the perception and i have made drugs with unmetered of them. But at the net i have found few info about a woman made a research or a shaman women.
Thats all.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536872 - 06/18/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just saying, based on all the women I know. Obviously, any women that regularly use psychedelics are probably the type of women that can handle them. But if somebody were to say "one random person in New York is now going to be dosed with 2 hits of hoffman acid that has never tripped before, do you want it to be a male or female" which gender would you pick?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536890 - 06/18/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well ok i respect the other sex
That's big of you. At least you didn't say "weaker".
I think women aren't built like men emotionally. The find the spirit in different avenues then we do. (often) Maybe because they don't have so many macho phobias to limit their expression?
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
#8536895 - 06/18/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would choose a woman, as she would be more likely to introspect afterward & gain something from her experience. Men may be more likely use psychedelics, but IME they are more likely to view their experiences as purely recreational. "Whoa! That was wild, duude!"
Women, in general, tend to be more introspective than men. Their emotionality is less likely to result in violent behavior, so I would not be concerned with the safety of others around them. Men, on the other hand, are much more likely to engage in violent behavior when experiencing intense emotions, so I would be concerned about giving acid to a totally inexperienced male subject.
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
#8536907 - 06/18/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good answer actually
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: Veritas]
#8536909 - 06/18/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Womem and psychedelics [Re: albien5]
#8536920 - 06/18/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
albien5 said: Well ok i respect the other sex, i have heard a lot of women speak about the other side and the perception and i have made drugs with unmetered of them.
The... other... side?
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That's where you go when you're tripping, it's the part that turns you gay.
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