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OfflineTripalistic_One
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Earth Changes
    #838069 - 08/23/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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RUSSIAN SCIENTIST SAYS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO A NEW ENERGY "ZONE" THAT IS TRANSFORMING THE MAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE PLANETS.

Dear Friends,

The scientific report below is so strange that I was not prepared to believe it or send it out to you until I contacted my old friend, peace poet, writer and translator, Igor Mikhailusenko in Moscow to find out if the scientist named below is a respected individual or just some kind of a kook. I can't really investigate the science but the least I can do is ascertain the reliability of the scientist.

Igor reports that the man is well-known and respected among Russian scientists and therefore I pass on the very interesting report below. We have always looked on the sun as very permanent and unchanging. But in fact we have recently been reading American scientists' reports of much larger magnetic storms on the sun than ever before. Sunspots have become larger or more numerous or the like, but no explanation has been offered. Now we may have it. I've not followed solar activity much but left it to others, not understanding that it could affect our real world situations.

Now it seems that what may really be happening is larger than just sun spot changes. It may actually be as Dr. Dmitriev seems to suggest that the entire solar system is moving into a new area of the heavens where things are indeed different.

We've always known that just as our planet revolves around the sun and in doing that passes through different areas so there are more meteorites at certain seasons than at others, so also the sun itself with the entire solar system around it has an orbit of its own. Orbit ? That would suggest a centre around which it revolves. I'm not sure of that, but it is clear that the entire solar system is not fixed in space. It must at least move with what some refer to as an "expanding universe".

So as it moves there is no reason to think that it cannot move into areas of different kinds of energy. Are these energies physical only ? What is the difference between physical energy and spiritual energy ? I have long believed that just as physical energy can be transformed into matter (E=mc square, a la Einstein), so also it seems likely that there is some similar relationship between spiritual energy (love) and physical energy. Well that is only my own intuitive feeling, but now we have some evidence that there really can be some vast changes affecting all the earth and all the planets at the same time. Whether the effect is physical only or also spiritual remains to be seen and experienced.

Now Igor also deserves some credit here. Without his input, his assurance that this scientist is credible, I would not have forwarded the report that follows. From the age of 10 when he lost both legs during a Nazi air raid, Igor has been a poet for peace writing and travelling and publishing books dedicated to a meaningful spiritual change for the earth.

I've known him since 1984 and met him personally in 1986, brought him to the U.S. in 1987. There is no question of his sincerity and dedication to peace. However, since the end of Communism when disabled people were fairly well cared for, things have not gone well for Igor. But in recent times he has been given an old computer and is now able to do email with many people across the world. Though he cannot himself access the web with his old equipment, a friend has created a website for him. You can visit it with a click on http://www.aztecfx.co.uk/aa/igor/select.html . There you will learn about the books he is publishing in English.

That's how I found out that the scientific work which appears below is respectable. Please do visit his website and find out about his books. See the scientific report below. Peace and love, Art Rosenblum

Subject: Russian Scientist says planets' atmospheres are Changing





This is the Russian perspective on earth changes :

Hard facts that are going unreported in America :

The atmospheres of the planets are changing :

Dr. Dmitriev's work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres

For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.

Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.'' Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before. And we're having this kind of change in Earth's atmosphere in the upper levels, where HO gas is forming that wasn't there before; it simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. It's not related to global warming and it's not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or any of that stuff. It's just showing up.

Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. The planets are experiencing sizable changes in their overall brightness. Venus, for example, is showing us marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter has gotten to have such a high energetic charge that there is actually a visible tube of ionising radiation that's formed between its moon, Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken more

And the planets are having a change in their fields. The magnetic fields are becoming stronger.

Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled. Uranus's magnetic field is changing. Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. These planets are becoming brighter. Their magnetic field strength is getting higher. Their atmospheric qualities are changing.

Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager 2 space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees, both of which are pretty big changes. The overall changes could essentially be broken down into three categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes, and atmospheric changes.

Overall volcanic activity has increased 500 percent since 1975 On the Earth, we're seeing the changes even more completely. For example, Michael Mandeville has done research that has shown that the overall volcanic activity on the Earth since 1875 has increased by roughly 500 percent. The overall earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent just since 1973. Natural disasters increased 410 percent between 1963 and 1993

Dr. Dmitriev did a very elaborate calculation of natural disasters. He showed that if you compare the years 1963 through 1993, the overall amount of natural disasters of all different kinds - whether you are talking hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, you name it - have increased by 410 percent.

The Sun's magnetic field has increased by 230 percent since 1901

There's a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, who has been investigating the Sun. He has discovered that since 1901, the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become 230 percent stronger than it was before. More than just Earth Changes So, all in all, what we're seeing is a lot more than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that's going on here.

Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.

The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent Now, check this out. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, of course, and that magnetic field creates an egg around the Solar System, which is known as the heliosphere. The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long and thin end of the drop pointing in the opposite direction from the direction that we're travelling. It's just like a comet, where the tail is always pointing away from the Sun. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there.

This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System. Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep.

Although Dmitriev's paper does not give an exact timeline, we can assume that this increase happened in the same 1963 to 1993 period as the increase he found in natural disasters. Whenever it happened, that's a 1,000 percent increase in the overall brightness of the energy at the front end of the Solar System.

And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.

This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.

And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.

All this is happening all at the same time, and it's all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift. In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.

Peace and love,
Art Rosenblum,
Aquarian Research Foundation,
Web: http://www.ic.org/aq


--------------------
The Bodhisattva Vow


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Anonymous

Re: Earth Changes [Re: Tripalistic_One]
    #839388 - 08/23/02 11:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Brilliant... thanks for sharing that


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Re: Earth Changes [Re: Tripalistic_One]
    #839643 - 08/24/02 04:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

RUSSIAN SCIENTIST SAYS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO A NEW ENERGY "ZONE" THAT IS TRANSFORMING THE MAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE PLANETS.
Dear Friends, we hope that this headline is vague and unscientific enough to capture your attention.

The scientific report below is so strange that I was not prepared to believe it
Your "belief preparation skills" need work as you glom on to any piece of New Age/pseudo-scientific fluff.

or send it out to you until I contacted my old friend, peace poet, writer and translator, Igor Mikhailusenko in Moscow to find out if the scientist named below is a respected individual or just some kind of a kook.
So the word of some mysterious friend of yours is supposed to be more convincing than, oh, let's say, some sort of peer-reviewed journal?

I can't really investigate the science
Because there isn't any.

but the least I can do is ascertain the reliability of the scientist.
Sorry, that is not how science works, oh clueless one.

Igor reports that the man is well-known and respected among Russian scientists and therefore I pass on the very interesting report below.
And when Igor talks, people listen...

We have always looked on the sun as very permanent and unchanging.
Not sure who the "we" is. Solar astronomers have been aware of the cycle nature of solar weather for quite some time.

But in fact we have recently been reading American scientists' reports of much larger magnetic storms on the sun than ever before.
The recorded history of magentic storms goes back less than a century, whereas "ever before" is estimated at about 4.5 billion years, so the amount of data that we have is roughly 100/4,500,000,000 of the total which is less than insignificant and no such statement may be made..

Sunspots have become larger or more numerous or the like, but no explanation has been offered.
No phenomenom is completely understood, but man's knowledge of the sun has expanded exponentially in the past few decades.

I've not followed solar activity much but left it to others, not understanding...
Quite obviously!

Now it seems that what may really be happening is larger than just sun spot changes. It may actually be as Dr. Dmitriev seems to suggest that the entire solar system is moving into a new area of the heavens where things are indeed different.
Do you have a working definition of "different"?

We've always known that just as our planet revolves around the sun
Not always. Please read up on Copernicus, et al... 500-600 years does not usually equate to "always".

So as it moves there is no reason to think that it cannot move into areas of different kinds of energy.
Facts usually are more helpful and meaningful than "no reason to think".

Are these energies physical only ?
What energies? Oh, you mean "these" energies. Gotcha.

What is the difference between physical energy and spiritual energy ?
One can be measured and the other can only be alluded to on your website.

I have long believed that just as physical energy can be transformed into matter (E=mc square, a la Einstein), so also it seems likely that there is some similar relationship between spiritual energy (love) and physical energy.
What you believe likely is NOT science.

Well that is only my own intuitive feeling,
And we all know how reliable an indicator THAT is!

but now we have some evidence that there really can be some vast changes affecting all the earth and all the planets at the same time. Whether the effect is physical only or also spiritual remains to be seen and experienced.
I will bet heavily without even reading the rest of this gibberish, that no "evidence" will be presented.

Now Igor also deserves some credit here. Without his input, his assurance that this scientist is credible, I would not have forwarded the report that follows.
The assurance from you (someone notoriously inaccurate) from some unknown friend of yours about some unknown scientist, who once again, I will bet heavily that no professional affiliation nor university is mentioned anywhere.

These credentials alone are impeccable and now I am ready to accept whatever fluff is put before me. Please continue...

From the age of 10 when he lost both legs during a Nazi air raid,
Belief through sympathy is a new tactic. Gotta hand it to you...

Igor has been a poet for peace writing and travelling and publishing books dedicated to a meaningful spiritual change for the earth. I've known him since 1984 and met him personally in 1986, brought him to the U.S. in 1987. There is no question of his sincerity and dedication to peace.
No, the question is as to his scientific credentials of which there are none.

However, since the end of Communism when disabled people were fairly well cared for, things have not gone well for Igor. But in recent times he has been given an old computer and is now able to do email with many people across the world. Though he cannot himself access the web with his old equipment, a friend has created a website for him. You can visit it with a click on http://www.aztecfx.co.uk/aa/igor/select.html . There you will learn about the books he is publishing in English.
Can you say "shameless plug"?

Subject: Russian Scientist says planets' atmospheres are Changing
This is the Russian perspective on earth changes :
Hard facts that are going unreported in America :
The atmospheres of the planets are changing :

Dr. Dmitriev's work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres

Who is Dr. Dmitriev? A friend of a friend of a legless man is the best you are going to get from these kooks.

For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before.
note: see earlier math: 50/4,000,000,000

The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.
Forthcoming NASA report reference: none!

Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.''
In the scientific community, it is important to make up cutesy names that only YOU understand, so that there is no common reference point.

Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before.
Any references, no, but Dr. Dee sez...

Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. (Paragraphs of more changes deleted for brevity)
Change in the universe is constant.

Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.
Any reference to this report? No!

The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent
Reference? None! Just make up shit as you go...

This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System. Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep.
References PLEASE!

And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.
This IS the natural conclusion - NOT!

All this is happening all at the same time, and it's all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift. In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.
Are you joking?

In summation: Dr. Dee has no first name, works in no city, has no university affiliation, has no published papers, but is the friend of a legless poet - and that is good enough for me.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Edited by Swami (08/24/02 04:58 AM)


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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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Re: Earth Changes [Re: Swami]
    #839664 - 08/24/02 04:45 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wow that was a thourough deconstruction.

I read this sentence and knew it was BS:
"Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing"

planets emit no light of their own, they reflect light.

more errors:
"This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic."

The ecliptic isn't the equatorial plane of the sun, it's the plane of Earth's orbit around the sun.

"so also the sun itself with the entire solar system around it has an orbit of its own. Orbit ? That would suggest a centre around which it revolves. I'm not sure of that, but it is clear that the entire solar system is not fixed in space"

It's been known for many decades that the sun is orbiting around the galactic center.

my favorite:
"Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before"

That would be amazing since the moon is only about 3,000 km in diameter.


where do they find this stuff?


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Re: Earth Changes [Re: Swami]
    #839680 - 08/24/02 05:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.''
In the scientific community, it is important to make up cutesy names that only YOU understand, so that there is no common reference point.

Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before




great reading
'natrium' is the technical word for sodium.
i'm very excited to discover the moon has somehow formed a 6000km deep layer of sodium upon it's surface. i can see the moon outside the window now but it looks about the same.


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Invisiblemr crisper
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Re: Earth Changes [Re: ]
    #839687 - 08/24/02 05:13 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

if i were to open your cranium and take a dump inside would you compliment and thank me so nicely?


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Anonymous

Re: Earth Changes [Re: mr crisper]
    #840506 - 08/24/02 02:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps, if I found it pleasurable


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Re: Earth Changes [Re: ]
    #840609 - 08/24/02 03:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You're a good sport Shroomism.


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Invisiblemr crisper
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Re: Earth Changes [Re: ]
    #840864 - 08/24/02 05:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i guarantee you would, my snappers are creamy in the middle and come with a little curly tail.
really tho, perhaps some meditation on tarot cards 4 and 6 will improve your ability to reason and discriminate.
tripalistic's effort is yet another rehash from more dodgy websites, to describe it as brilliant without sarcasm is doing yourself and trip/1 a disservice. swami may come across as pretty gruff, but his efforts are far kinder, more thoughtful and caring than many realize.
look at it this way, if you see a child at the stove holding his hand over the flame, do you walk up and say "good idea!' and put your hand in the fire too?
i guess in this anology swami pulls the child away and give him a wack in the back of the head (with his favorite rock).


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Re: Earth Changes [Re: mr crisper]
    #840911 - 08/24/02 05:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

when I read about the Natrium compound and did a quick search on the net (since there was no description of what it was made of) I quickly realized that this post is a bunch of horse shit. Keep up the good work swami, enjoyed your reply indeed.


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