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A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment *DELETED*
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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Jive turkey]
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Reincarnation is a belief that I am interested in unfortunately I have only little knowledge on the subject.


You have the exact same amount of knowledge on this as anyone else on the the planet.

And no more rearching! :nono:


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Jive turkey]
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Memory is energy! It doesn't disappear - it's still in there. There's a physiological pathway to our earlier consciousnesses. There has to be; and I'm telling you it's in the goddamned limbic system.



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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said:
Memory is energy! It doesn't disappear - it's still in there. There's a physiological pathway to our earlier consciousnesses. There has to be; and I'm telling you it's in the goddamned limbic system.




ah the good ol limbic system. memory formation and emotions. sounds logical.

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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Jive turkey]
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Would be cool to see the refined version.
No need for all the beliefs though.

A middle path is direct observation. No belief needed.
Like standing with equal gravity on your two feet,
standing in line with your spine, down the symmetry,
on one point.

It can be called balance, but keep in mind that it's one single point,
at one single moment.
When two poles or two feet equal out, they cancel out,
and what's left is the sphere of direct experience,
one awareness.

I find God here,
in momentary experience.


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Jive turkey]
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I had two paragraphs to go when I decided this essay was bullshit. Not only do you lack proper mechanics, usage, and punctuation, but your theory makes too many assumptions. The best theories are the simplest ones and yours makes the biggest assumption of all: that there is a god. Also, life isn't so simple as to break it down between good and evil. You state that organized religion is at fault for molding our perceptions of good and evil, forgetting to realize that 'good' and 'evil' are concepts of religion in the first place.


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They can do this by meditation, working with Buddhists or shamans or other mind clearing methods.


Are you implying that Buddhists and shamans are more 'elevated' than 'modern man'? One does not need to really 'do' anything in order to have an objective view (non-judgemental, as you call it), just come to an understanding that we know nothing.

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We refrain from saying this man is evil because he committed murder instead we recognize him as evil for creating evil(suffering, pain, and sorrow).


Once again, good and evil are pre-concepts, they're not inherent as you seem to believe. Survival is the only inherent concept in a newborn organism. Also, why should I deem this man evil anyway? He didn't cause me any feelings of suffering, pain, and sorrow?

I did, however, like the idea that God is just the collective energy of our thoughts, however, unrealistic that idea is.

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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Reincarnation is a belief that I am interested in unfortunately I have only little knowledge on the subject.


You have the exact same amount of knowledge on this as anyone else on the the planet.

And no more rearching! :nono:


Wow, you actually read that.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Boots]
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Boots said:
I had two paragraphs to go when I decided this essay was bullshit. Not only do you lack proper mechanics, usage, and punctuation, but your theory makes too many assumptions. The best theories are the simplest ones and yours makes the biggest assumption of all: that there is a god. Also, life isn't so simple as to break it down between good and evil. You state that organized religion is at fault for molding our perceptions of good and evil, forgetting to realize that 'good' and 'evil' are concepts of religion in the first place.


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They can do this by meditation, working with Buddhists or shamans or other mind clearing methods.


Are you implying that Buddhists and shamans are more 'elevated' than 'modern man'? One does not need to really 'do' anything in order to have an objective view (non-judgemental, as you call it), just come to an understanding that we know nothing.

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We refrain from saying this man is evil because he committed murder instead we recognize him as evil for creating evil(suffering, pain, and sorrow).


Once again, good and evil are pre-concepts, they're not inherent as you seem to believe. Survival is the only inherent concept in a newborn organism. Also, why should I deem this man evil anyway? He didn't cause me any feelings of suffering, pain, and sorrow?

I did, however, like the idea that God is just the collective energy of our thoughts, however, unrealistic that idea is.



The concept of good/evil that I claim religion molds is from the idea that these beliefs of good/evil are based on moral judgment. To decide good and evil the mind needs to be clear of any pre conceived notions of good and evil. An act has to cause suffering to be deemed evil.


The statement about working with a Buddhist or Shaman was just to give an example of beings who master mind clearing techniques. It was a poorly worded section, and yes all people have the ability to have an objective view.


As far as assuming that there is a God, I felt God was a better label than androgynous sphere of energy formed by are collective thoughts. Plus it's a lot less to write.

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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Icelander]
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read what?


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I found an error in your rough draft, you forgot to capitalize the A in the first sentence.

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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: xFrockx]
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i read the first paragraph and decided you make too many assumptions.

to try and and describe g_d in the "all" sense is pretty pointless i think. i'll just use one example, but this applies to most of what i read in your first paragraph:

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I believe however that god is a hermaphroditic sphere of energy made of both masculine and feminine energies because nature for the most part is divided in to male and female


you've been to one tiny planet out of a quitrillionasmoulon number of planets (sorry i don't know the real number) how are you qualified to say that nature is divided into male and female.
i noticed you say "For the most part", so you see that lots of things on earth have other reproduction methods, i would imagine you should ammend your theory based on current knowledge to account for all the energy types of things that don't sexually reproduce.


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: truekimbo2]
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it's not male and female.. it's polor opposites..maybe that can work a little better for your theories


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: HALFemptyJOSH]
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Oh yeah and for the answer of who/what/when was god... it's just about everything... all energy and everything that exist.. God has no real conscious thought.. God is the universe, God is you, and anything living or not.

I do not have a male image of god.. that is your own mind created unconsciously when you were a kid probably becasue you were introduced to christain religion. there is my assumption and might even be right.


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: HALFemptyJOSH]
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wow... i mean.. i didn't know people who thinklike this really exist..

"Let’s look at another example. You go to a party and you see two homosexual men holding hands you feel an uneasy awkward feeling possibly an evil energy. How do we go about deciding this to be good or evil?"

Homosexuality makes you awkward because you are not a homo!! you are not used to it.. not bad energy. it is not bad just because they can't reproduce together. who can judge good and evil.. it can't be judged because it doesn't even actually exist. everyone has reasoning for what they do whether the know it themselves or not. you might not see eye to eye with their logic but it does not make them wrong. lets say 42yo kill 8yo for no other reason but to kill her... lets say a psychologist finds out that some serious trauma has fucked up his head nothing that was even his fault.. so where is this evil? doesn't lie in him but just the world around him.. but wait how can that be evil.. your running in circles here. it's a paradox and everyone knows it. good, evil... there is not really such a thing. morality is in your own head.


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: HALFemptyJOSH]
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HALFemptyJOSH said:
it's not male and female.. it's polor opposites..maybe that can work a little better for your theories


There are plant species with three sexes. How do they fit in?


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Entropymancer]
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why does sex have to have anything to do with energy... sure it can give you energy but.. honestly..


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Boots]
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"[...]forgetting to realize that 'good' and 'evil' are concepts of religion in the first place[...]"
Fatal error !
Personal experience is where those 'concepts' arose.
Something hurting you = subjective evil
Something supporting you = subjective good

Stone-age stuff.


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'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: BlueCoyote]
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I was gonna read it all but at the start you said, god is the collection of all our thoughts or something like that, i believe thoughts are man's, when we leave thought behind, then we're god.

Non attachment, involves no thoughts. When your completely unattached you are god. Thoughts are attachments, thoughts change all the time as knowledge grows.

Yet when you know all, there is no thought.

Thought can lead you to god, deep deep meditative thoughts, yet soon as that thought is gone, that moment right there is over, god is gone, that same thought will not bring god back.

I write alot, then i get the paper and i tear it up and throw it away...i learn more doing this then i do from writing it in the first place.


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: Chronic7]
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I used to be able to see all my thoughts as branches or loops which I could recurse infinitely over into another loop or branch and use the mind on a completely different level. I don't have the ability to do that anymore, I simply try and stay balanced and see the loop from the 2nd or 3rd branch up from the bottom.

Is writing your strategy for transcending these loops? I wouldn't mind being god as you say


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Re: A rough draft of my theorys of spiritual networking and of collectively becoming God's judgment [Re: truekimbo2]
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truekimbo2 said:
you've been to one tiny planet out of a quitrillionasmoulon number of planets (sorry i don't know the real number) how are you qualified to say that nature is divided into male and female.
i noticed you say "For the most part", so you see that lots of things on earth have other reproduction methods, i would imagine you should ammend your theory based on current knowledge to account for all the energy types of things that don't sexually reproduce.



How many planets have you been to?
Secondly I don't have to be qualified I'm presenting a theory not a fact.

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