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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80493 - 12/24/99 01:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

In the past my questions concerning fungicides in cow feed and salt licks have gone unanswered. From information that I have gathered from my own experiences, I think the "poop" as you have called it IS different in appearance and texture when the cows have been treated with vitamins, salt, whatever it is they use.
Heres what I think:
I have been in about fifteen fields in Florida when the cow pies are like "cardboard pancakes". They dry up and dont even stick on the ground,,, you can just pick them up. I think it gives the cows diarreah. And I have never found a single shroom in any of these fields.
Ive never seen a salt block in a field,,, too expensive for most farmers I think.
I like being in the fields with cows, but picking is sometimes easier without them in the way.


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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80495 - 12/24/99 02:31 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I think you may be on to something, GGhreat. If memory serves me correctly, in the fields I've hit without luck, the "fecal matter" has been *precisely* as you described.
I shrugged it off, thinking that it was environmental conditions that gave it that appearance. Perhaps I was wrong. But in every field that had that appearance to the "dung" I found not ONE SINGLE SOLITARY FUNGI.
Coincidence? I think not. I want to learn more about this.
Does anyone know what company sells this stuff?



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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80496 - 12/25/99 03:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Abaddon,
Heres a little article I found in the December '99 issue of Discover.

"Hamburger Helper"
Tall fescue grasses have long been a favorite grazing food for cattle in the southeastern United States, but a fungus that produces toxic compounds similar to LSD likes the grass too. If cattle feed on infested blades, they give less milk, produce fewer offspring, and often develop a degenerative hoof disease. "It's a huge problem in the East," says Vivien Allen, an animal-foraging expert at Texas Tech University.
Trying to rid the grass of fungus would help eradicate this $600-million-a-year scourge but would raise other problems, because the fungus also protects the grass against insects and helps it tolerate stress from drought and overgrazing. Fortunately, nature may have provided a better remedy, in the form of a brown seaweed called Ascophyllum nodosum. Allen and her colleagues at Virginia Tech and Mississippi State discovered that an extract from the seaweed, when sprayed on a pasture, activates the innate defense mechanisms of both the grass and the animals that eat it. It also boosts cattle's immune systems and improves the quality of their meat.
"This has large economic implications,"says Allen. The researchers now plan to determine whether they can treat the animals with a seaweed supplement in their feed, thus saving the cost of spraying.

Also see www.beef.org/prodirm/irm_allen.htm for more information.

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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80497 - 12/25/99 04:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you, this is great info!
Thanks for going to the trouble to type it up, too.
It seems the researchers are hard at work at combatting natural occuring psychedelics.
They're refering to ergot in the article, correct?
I wonder how widespread the use of no-spore is. Maybe I'm wrong, but that *might* explain part of the difficulty in finding cubes in georgia. Because I have definitely heard rumors, but until recently, I didn't know the additive by the name "no-spore".
But wouldn't the farmer add no-spore only after there was a problem with people trespassing, looking for psy. cubensis? I dunno.


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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80498 - 12/26/99 11:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I live in Florida and am very familiar with the use of No-Spore by farmers around here. Some counties in the southern portion of the state have made it the law that cattle farms "must" put it in their cattle feed. It serves no purpose except to stop the germination of spores in the cow's stomachs. Salt lick blocks also stop spore germination in the stomach but it also has the benefit of sealing the cow's skin spores and helping them retain water weight.
The only benefit to a farmer if he uses No-Spore is that he can keep the "Damn Shroom Pickers" out of his field. What he (the farmer) doesn't realize is that it only works on the spores that are in the cow's stomach at the time he ate the No-Spore feed. The cow dung from 5 years ago will still put out shrooms. I pick P. Cubensis in several fields where No-Spore is used and still get a lot of fresh ones. As a matter of fact I am picking shrooms out of fields which haven't had a cow in them for over 20 years.
All in all, if a farmer has had cattle in his field for many years, and just now begins adding No-Spore to his cattle feed, he is wasting his money because I'll still be hopping his damn fence.

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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80499 - 12/27/99 10:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

In Robin's voice from Batman and Robin: Holy cow shit, Shroom Wizard,
You are always full of great info.
But let me get clear on one thing:
You said that no-spore stops the germination of the spores in the cow's stomach, but can it stop the germination of airborne spores that land on the dung?
You've been picking in fields that haven't had cows in them for 20 years?! Damn. You have to forgive me, I'm new to picking.
So it doesn't matter that the dung isn't fresh. Well I've been hitting very poor producing fields. (Read: Zip, Zilch, Nada)
Thanks again man

-Abaddon



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Re: "NO-SPORE" and NO COWS
    #80500 - 12/27/99 10:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

One more question, Shroom Wizard:
Do you know how I can find out what counties are required to use no-spore?
Thanks again,

-Abaddon

[This message has been edited by Abaddon (edited December 27, 1999).]



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