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my moral judgment
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Ok, first off, I usually look out for people. I make sure the drunks have a ride or a bed, I've given a lot of people positive advice I think, but despite this, I strike up a completely different attitude when the dice fall in my favor if I only chose to exploit a situation calling for the honesty policy.

---What I mean to say is, I've been finding a lot of money at work lately [restaurant] - in the seats [not tip money, just bills chillin in the seats] and today I found a wallet. At first I was just gonna check if it had some cash strip it and put it back. But I panicked because I found $100 in cash and a lot of credit cards/id in it, so now I realized I'm fucking up this dudes life just for the money. Since I'm a busser if I took the cash and left the wallet I'd probably be an easy suspect, so I hung on to it and kept my mouth shut so I can figure this out. Oh, and I found like 300 yen or yuan in it, i'm not sure what kind of bills they are. I'm gonna guess it's not much in USD. I'm gonna go look at the exchange rates...But yeah, what I think I'm gonna do is keep the cash, and send everything else back through the mail without a return address. Either way I'm keeping the money, I'm living on my own dime and supporting myself and my dog.  I feel like this may be some shitty form of self justification, but at the same time it just feels so damn good to pick up a fat sack on someone else's cash. :justdontknow:

edit: if you couldn't gather from my op, i'm feelin guilty about this. what would you do in my spot?

Edited by blkjkrabbit (01/27/08 04:21 AM)

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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Well. by taking the money and returing the credit cards, you're not totally fucking him money wise. you could make it a lot worse for him. Given that, still having a heavy concoious is a drag.

If it was me and I was totally broke, I'd prolly take the cash. If I was financially well off, I'd return it.


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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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yeah dude my conscious is killing me on this one. but i think by sending the wallet back with all his other personal shit intact i'm somewhat of a decent human being, being the law breaking fiendish sunofabitch i tend to be.




side note - found out 300 yuan is ~$40 :yesnod:

Edited by blkjkrabbit (01/27/08 04:27 AM)

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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Taking the money is the charge for returning his shit.
That's how I would look at it


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Re: my moral judgment [Re: Cubie]
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Word up, postage is a bitch these days, plus - it's $140 as opposed to the all kinds of fucked up I can make him with all his shit right now. So yeah you said it best, it's the fuckin fee for not exploiting his shit outright.

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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Well, I'd say you your probably can use it more than he. Someone who walks around with $140 and a bunch of credit cards probably can take the hit.

In addition, finding foreign money probably means the dude has the cash to buy plane tickets back and forth to China.

Normally I'm only for taking from big businesses, faceless corporations, that sort of thing but this guy seems loaded... and if someone else found it the dude could be a lot worse off.

Also carrying that much cash around is a really dumb move.

:ohwell:

I'd expect someone to do the same if it were my wallet.

Hell, I wouldn't even expect to get my wallet back at all.

The only reason you feel guilty is because society dictates you should. Who's to say what's right and wrong?

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: Bandersnatch]
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Hmm... this makes me feel like a choad. I'd return it personally... just me though.


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Re: my moral judgment [Re: BurningBeard]
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BurningBeard said:
Hmm... this makes me feel like a choad. I'd return it personally... just me though.


It would be the honorable thing to do.

I have returned expensive things in the past to people who obviously had the money to buy a replacement and not even gotten a thank you though, so I'm kind of bitter about this sort of thing.

Also had this happen where people came into the restaurant I was working and gave a really shit tip (or no tip) and left something. Card, Wallet etc. and came back for it. I returned it of course but got nothing in return... and in many cases no tip for waiting on them either... and tips are where your paycheck comes from as a waiter.

I've also lost things and not gotten them back despite having a name or phone number on them. Even had my place of residence broken into and robbed, majorly sucked.

People are generally scum, but maybe this guy's not.

I'm just sick of being taken advantage of by people and no longer expect to get anything returned to me if I lose it. I'll carry very little cash unless I plan on spending it on something specific.

It's just lessons you learn about life.

People suck, just got to get used to it.

Which feels better, a pat on the back from yourself or cash in hand?

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: Bandersnatch]
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I know if I hadn't eatin in 3 days and I droped my last 5 dollers. And the person that picked it up saw me drop it. I would never see it again. So ftw' take care of your self first then worry about rather or not you can afford honor


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Re: my moral judgment [Re: Cubie]
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I'm a firm believer in karma.


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: BurningBeard]
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give the money and the whole thing back to the guy, it will pay off in more ways then one in the long run in your life.


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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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ive lost my wallet twice. both times luckily it was returned to me. both times the cash was taken out. a little over 50 bucks each time. Tell you the truth, I was happier having my wallet back and all my bank cards, credit card, drivers license and what not then not having anything. I think the person that took the time to package it up, send it, and spend his time helping me deserved the money...

Its a bitch having to get a new license, close all your accounts and re open...

Take the money, return the wallet. One of mine even had a little note in it saying he is keeping the money cause he is in a tight place and he could have just thrown the wallet away and done nothing, but instead felt he should send it. I agreed.

peace

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: supra]
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I would return the wallet and leaver the money in it (minus what it costs to send it in the mail. I don't believe in karma or anything like that, but I do try to do things the way I'd like them done to me.

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: Bandersnatch]
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Bandersnatch said:
People suck, just got to get used to it.

Which feels better, a pat on the back from yourself or cash in hand?


^^^^There's a good attitude.  People suck, so you might as well become part of the problem. :rolleyes:

Rationalize all you want, but if you keep the money, you're a thief.


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:heartpump:

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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considering you plan on buying drugs with it, which are completely unnecessary, i'd say it's a shitty thing to do

cause if you can blow $100 on bud, you clearly DON'T need the money that badly

if there hadn't been id with it, i'd say keep it all, but you know who it does belong to, and that person is not you



edit: oh, and karma is bullshit, just so you know where i'm coming from her


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Edited by demius (01/27/08 09:53 AM)

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: demiu5]
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demius said:
considering you plan on buying drugs with it, which are completely unnecessary, i'd say it's a shitty thing to do

cause if you can blow $100 on bud, you clearly DON'T need the money that badly

if there hadn't been id with it, i'd say keep it all, but you know who it does belong to, and that person is not you



edit: oh, and karma is bullshit, just so you know where i'm coming from her



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Diploid: I think adults have a right to make stupid decisions and it's nobody else's fucking business.

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: mycopsycho]
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Karma aside, it's plain fucking shady.

Stealing is stealing no matter what way you slice it or how you pretty it up.


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Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
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Re: my moral judgment [Re: BurningBeard]
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technically it isnt stealing. possesion is 9/10ths of the law. this is merely a moral decision.


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Diploid: I think adults have a right to make stupid decisions and it's nobody else's fucking business.

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: mycopsycho]
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Here's a question for ya.

Did the wallet at one time belong to someone else? The answer is yes.

Look up stealing in the dictionary.

The wallet was not given, and thus, it is stealing. There's no argument here, just plain English.


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: my moral judgment [Re: BurningBeard]
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Well he found it, they lost it, so it's not really classic stealing, if he does "steal" here its a passive act not an aggressive one, so imo that makes it a little less bad.

Take the money and then don't spend it on drugs.


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