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morality of dealing drugs
    #5676800 - 05/26/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive been thinking about this issue lately..
do you fellow pubbers believe that dealing drugs is morally wrong?


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5676810 - 05/26/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

god bless every honest drug dealer.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5676814 - 05/26/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I try not to judge other people's actions as moral or immoral. To me morality is a question for each individual. The only exception is when a person's actions may have an impact on a child or another person who cannot protect themselves. in that case I will make judgment, and my judgment is swift.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5676817 - 05/26/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what kind of drugs are we talking here?


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: eris]
    #5676844 - 05/26/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

who is to say that a grown adult who sells a substance to another grown adult to alter his state of mind is doing something morally wrong?


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: lowdominion]
    #5676880 - 05/26/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not morally wrong, perhaps if you saw someone who needed help still trying to score from you, you could lie and say you were out? Thats the only place i see morals come into it.

Apart from when i did it for a bit i was smoking my own shit and became progressively more of a dishonest swine to make it worthwhile. I wont deal again but if i did id try not to do that again. Something about making deals turns/turned me into a right cunt, like haggling the fuck out of a guy trying to sell me shrooms at Glastonbury. Again, these days id try not be so hardnosed, just aware of a good deal or not. I got my comeuppance that time as my friend sat there calling me a prick for a good half an hour. Then the mushrooms kicked in and he started smiling in caricature and giggled like a little girl/crawled around pretending to be a dog for the rest of the night.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5676881 - 05/26/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking about this the other day too. I have some e-pills that I bought impulsively, but the place I work has random drug tests. So after mulling over whether I should eat 'em or not, I decided it wouldn't be a good idea.

Now I have these pills that I'm not gonna be able to do for at least a couple years (which is alright, 'cause I read on Erowid that their quality doesn't really decline much over time).

But anyway, to get to the point, I was thinking if I did end up re-selling them (I don't really "deal" drugs, and I always feel awkward either buying or selling drugs), that I would only sell them under certain circumstances.

The person I was selling them to should: 1.) Be over twenty-one, 2.) Have already done ecstasy before, and 3.) Should not have any children. I don't know why, but those would be my conditions, however whimsical.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: goliath_91710]
    #5677041 - 05/26/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

damn i wouldn't mind scoring some e but Ive never done it before so i dont meet your requirements :smile:


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5677056 - 05/26/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:grin:Unless your selling something thats physically harmful/addicting, i.e. Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, E, Pharmaceuticals, Alcohol, Sugar, Nicotine, Caffeine, ,there isn't really a question of morality. Hey but if your from a western society selling drugs is in your blood.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5677060 - 05/26/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think its morally wrong to be a pusher. Pushers are people who basically harass and try to bend your will to sell you something.

A hustler on the other hand, waits for people to call him, and gives them what they ask for. He doesn't try to cram anything down anyone's throat.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: DrAbominable]
    #5677063 - 05/26/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dont leave the eastern society alone dr.abominable

they have been selling various drugs throughout time as well

not necessarily the conventional ones we think of but the strange herbal remedies that rely on faith to work

i dont see that any different from a western society selling zoloft or paxil


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5677072 - 05/26/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have never had anyone ever try to push on me you would pretty much have to be the dumbest mother fucker in the world to try to "push" drugs on someone. If a dealer ever got too pushy with me it would be fairly easy to just point the douche out to the proper people.

oh yeah this is in response to DrJ


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5677096 - 05/26/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I see people on the corners and stuff that call themselves "hustlers".

When i drive through certain blocks, they are basically jumping on my car like a bunch of apes.. yelling, jumping in front of my car, trying to open the doors.
"How much you got", "stop", "take this number down"...
I guess they just assume I'm into steet drugs like meth, crack, heroin, etc. I'd like to just floor it and run them all over, but I don't think I could get away with it.

It's like getting hassled more than anything. One of these days, I'm gonna roll out there with a machinegun and blast all of them, and take their shit too.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5677135 - 05/26/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't admit stuff like this on the internet if I were you.


Edited by Rono (05/26/06 03:12 PM)


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: eris]
    #5677136 - 05/26/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Zoloft and Paxil, are social narcotics used for the suppresion of emotions and basic human reactions to stress. These drugs cause many adverse side effects, creating zombie like creatures with the emotional equivalent of a door knob. Yes there are tons of herbal medicines from the east, but how many of them are previlant where you live?
And please dont say opium.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: DrAbominable]
    #5677366 - 05/26/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no idea what your talking about randalflagg recheck the posts as there may have been some misinterpretation :smile:

anyway thank you all for your opinions

drabominable i think you min interpreted what i was trying to say

you said that dealing drugs is already in the blood of those raised in a western society .. while I'm not originally from western society and your statement doesn't really concern me i still feel i need to defend western society by pointing out the mood altering drugs have also been available in eastern cultures and the selling of drugs to alter or better ones mood is seen in both western and eastern cultures


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5677439 - 05/26/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
I think its morally wrong to be a pusher. Pushers are people who basically harass and try to bend your will to sell you something.

A hustler on the other hand, waits for people to call him, and gives them what they ask for. He doesn't try to cram anything down anyone's throat.




I agree...there are definately drug dealers that are peices of shit---I wanst familiar with the terms pusher and hustler but I dont really think pushers exist so much outside drug-ed videos (hey kid, ya wanna fly? inject this.) There is also alot of gray area when your talking about dealing pot/shrooms compared to smack and crack. As far as honestly is concerned, I dont think anybody who is in any type of business is completely honest with there customers. Certainly drug dealers dont tell the truth when they are saying how much they bought if for.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
    #5677526 - 05/26/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

there is absolutly nothing wrong with selling drugs, just don't get busted.


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: eris]
    #5677673 - 05/26/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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eris said:
I see people on the corners and stuff that call themselves "hustlers".

When i drive through certain blocks, they are basically jumping on my car like a bunch of apes.. yelling, jumping in front of my car, trying to open the doors.
"How much you got", "stop", "take this number down"...
I guess they just assume I'm into steet drugs like meth, crack, heroin, etc. I'd like to just floor it and run them all over, but I don't think I could get away with it.

It's like getting hassled more than anything. One of these days, I'm gonna roll out there with a machinegun and blast all of them, and take their shit too.




What the fuck you driving threw projects for?!?!? :smirk:

The probably got more guns then you can handle btw.  Thugs dont fuck around.....


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Re: morality of dealing drugs [Re: evolprim]
    #5677681 - 05/26/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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evolprim said:
not necessarily the conventional ones we think of but the strange herbal remedies that rely on faith to work




Do you have facts to back this up?

Because those 'strange herbal remedies' do work.. and not on faith.


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