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InvisibleEgo Death
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Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof
    #7801591 - 12/26/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.




http://www.disclosureproject.org/

Diploid and Orgoneconclusion how you gonna debunk this one ^ and why should people believe you over the mass of highly credited people involved in the disclosure project.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Ego Death]
    #7801717 - 12/26/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They are either ALL honest people, or ALL liars.

hmmmm...


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InvisibleStein
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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Ego Death]
    #7802108 - 12/26/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously, I want to believe UFO's are E.T. technology but statements are only statements and until someone or some thing puts hard proof/evidence in my hands it's just a UFO, story or myth to me.  :shrug:

With no proof they will remain UFOs and that's it.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7802265 - 12/26/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so , any news . is that all ?


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: cactu]
    #7802284 - 12/26/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, still just UFOs here. You?


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7802390 - 12/26/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

like if human history was´t enough


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7803022 - 12/27/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disclosure_Project#List_of_witnesses

George A. Filer III Former Air Force Major Claims an alien craft came down at McGuire Air Force Base, an alien came out and was shot by a military policeman. Its dead body was found at the end of the runway.
Claims to have chased an alien ship over England when flying for the US Air Force.

Steven Lovekin Brigadier General, Esq., White House Army Signaling Agency Said that while stationed at White House 1959-1961, was extensively briefed on UFO reality, shown crash debris from 1947 New Mexico crash with 3 to 5 alien bodies recovered, told people had been assassinated to maintain secrecy, and he and other Signal Corps members heard President Eisenhower rueing how control of the situation was being lost by the government and taken over by private corporations (part of Eisenhower's military-industrial complex warning).

Don Phillips Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor While in the Air Force at Nellis Air Force Base, he says UFOs were witnessed moving at high speeds near Mount Charleston, northwest of Las Vegas.
He says that we have extraterrestrial devices in our possession and that we have advanced our technology because of this (examples include: computer chips, lasers, night vision, bulletproof vests).
He says that in the 1950s - 1960s, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) did research on the origins of extraterrestrial races and shared the to the leaders of various countries.
He says that there are records and filmed documents of meetings in California in 1954 between extraterrestrial and leaders of the United States.
"Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago — or could have done some damage."

What can we conclude from this?
To think that all these people are part of a conspiracy to make the biggest alien/ufo hoax known to man?
To think looking at the size and age of the universe and the fact that we are ourselves "aliens" that are travelling space then there must be other races like us doing the same?

Its funny how people will call you a nutter for seeing aliens as being more likely than all those people lying. I think its more delusional to say that the millions of witnesses world wide and the physical evidence is all fabricated.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Ego Death]
    #7803026 - 12/27/07 06:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure it's not a fabricated giant "hoax" but I could say I saw aliens in my backyard and I would just be another could be would be truth teller even though I was full of shit. Stories are just that, stories. You can quote all the shit you want but until I see it myself that's all they are, stories.

Don't get me wrong I want to believe it and I'm sure there is some truth to the stories but like I said I have to see it to believe it and not just on tape but with my own eyes.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7803151 - 12/27/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

according to this abductee, the arriival, when everyone will KNOW they are real, is 2015.

i highly recommend listening to this guy's abduction story on youtube as well. VERY weird shit happened to him. he scrambles his voice and it's very annoying, just adjust your bass/treble to make it bearable.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7803203 - 12/27/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Myth, fact, lie, hoax, story, or even partial reality, this is pretty interesting and still deserving of your clear and thoughtful objective attention.

Stories about beings higher and more advanced than humans are deeply rooted in any culture. It is a strong archetype presenting itself again in our time.

Should that take away from its validity, or is that a non sequitor?


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7803227 - 12/27/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i'm very open to it. i even believe it's plausible. yet i'll know when i see it.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Ego Death]
    #7803340 - 12/27/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.




Until it happens, it doesn't mean anything. If it does happen, very cool... however, based upon history, I wouldn't hold my breath.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: Stein]
    #7803452 - 12/27/07 10:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Stein said:
Seriously, I want to believe UFO's are E.T. technology but statements are only statements and until someone or some thing puts hard proof/evidence in my hands it's just a UFO, story or myth to me.  :shrug:

With no proof they will remain UFOs and that's it.




I agree 100%

I dont understand why various world governments would try to hide it, if there was actual substantial proof.


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Re: Aliens and UFO's are real - heres the proof [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7803552 - 12/27/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thats simple,
because they pose a defense threat and no department of defense will admit that theres a threat they can do nothing about.

If a highly advanced being decided to come and abduct and study a human then theres nothing we can do about it. That is why they won't admit it.

We gotta keep the machine turning, any thing that is against the machine shall be dealt with.

Its easy to find proof of this, one of the first things the USAF said when saucer hype first hit the newspapers was "We have discovered that the UFOs pose no significant threat to the defense of our country".

Clearly they were thinking quite the opposite but it just shows what their priorities are in these matters.


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7803569 - 12/27/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A government is a lot of different people and there have been many people in government/MOD roles who claim the UFO phenomena to be real and to be likely to be extra-terrestrial in origin.

Some governments keep all UFO information classified, some just classify some of it and others release all their information.


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: Ego Death]
    #7804993 - 12/27/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

People seems to be under the belief that just because you are a government official you are somehow a really credible person.
I read in the papers all the time about for example military intelligence officers involved in all kind of stupid shit. And personally know a respected doctor and friend of the family with some really crazy ideas.

In the end we are all people and nobody is above their subconscious or suggestive manipulations or what not.
I don't care who you are.

Just goes to show the blind and misguided trust people have for people in authority. I've long since abandoned all such illusions.


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #7806441 - 12/28/07 02:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Scarfmeister said:
Just goes to show the blind and misguided trust people have for people in authority. I've long since abandoned all such illusions.




man.. these "illusions" are the reason humans are getting fucked everyday. Getting cheated the fuck out of life. Who can you trust?

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In the end we are all people and nobody is above their subconscious or suggestive manipulations or what not.




Yes but they'll kill you if you stand in their way.

Like you, I've long since abandoned such illusions of trusting the "people in authority". If u kno what i mean.


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7806504 - 12/28/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Now I just trust fantasy websites promoting Pleidian ideals and free energy.


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7806509 - 12/28/07 02:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What are you talking about? You don't trust that shit, I do!


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Re: Aliens and UFOs are real - heres the proof [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7806571 - 12/28/07 03:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Yes but they'll kill you if you stand in their way.

... yes, obviously. Look how quickly they killed Alex Jones, for example.


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