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Re: possible subbs? [Re: coon]
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How come we're the only ones posting? does nobody eles find this amusing enough to post in it? come one people I'm not done laughing yet.

no me and ferret exchanged "harsh words" the other day. I had one of my usual emotional outbursts and he took it personal.


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Safety first children :thumbup:

Edited by Purple_spore (05/11/07 01:11 AM)

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: CureCat]
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ferret and purple.oh,I dont give a fuck.

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: coon]
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:rofl:


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Re: possible subbs? [Re: CureCat]
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back to mushrooms! all of you!

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: coon]
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update with new pictures. those look like theyre probably subbalteatus. and nice ones if they are.


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My Panaeolus subbalteatus Guide
http://www.shroomery.org/9608/Subbedhunter420s-Guide-to-Hunting-and-Identifying-Panaeolus-subbalteatus

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: wikedferret]
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Don't take it personally ferret.  We like you buddy.  Just having some fun (at your expense :smile:).  But yep, this is a nice thread, you've got some nice finds there.  Keep it up! 

And don't come after us with your black rubber gloves on!!!! :blueninja:

Purple, be nice!

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: coon]
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Coon,

They are not Panaeolus subbalteatus

mj

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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Uhhh, John, You want to ellaborate on why you think they are not subbs??

I am not certain that they are subbs, but I don't see enough info or good enough photos to rule it out.


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Re: possible subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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mj, coon never said they were subbs, so I don't know why your comments are directed at him. And I agree with curecat, current evidence points towards subbs, and you are offering no reason that they are not.

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: xmush]
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The title of the thread by coon was:

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possible Subbs?


He posted the thread and the images which in the first picture appear to be zonate, but other shrooms can similar bands of colors at times. His are not subbs as he asked in his thread title.

And that is what i posted in a response to the threads title/

Mj

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Re: possable subbs? [Re: wikedferret]
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I know not everyone can go out an buy digital camera for the purpose of taking pictures of mushrooms. But your images are extremely difficult to work with. You could potentially attain better images using a scanner. Additionally you may need to fine tune your spore printing technique so as to obtain thicker deposits. Follow the advice given by Xmush, this alone will eliminate any ambiguity with regard to identification.
At this point it would be difficult to make a definitive pronouncement regarding identity and any such affirmation should be considered conjecture.
Wood chips are not the typical habitat of subbalteatus and they do not colonize and fruit from such a medium insofar as anyone has observed. That said, this ubiquitous landscaping element is occasionally used to mulch rich composted soil containing manure and or other favorable fertilizers. Based on the presence of wood chips we can’t automatically assume your mushrooms are lignicolous and thus not subbalteatus. I found subbs in Chicago’s Grant Park just last summer appearing to grow from woodchips. They were obviously taking advantage of the well fertilized / irrigated soil below and were fruiting despite the proximity of this inhospitable woody material.

Good luck!!!

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Re: possable subbs? [Re: georgeM]
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The woodchips aren't helping this ID but it's definitely not beyond the realm of possibility that they could be subbs.

The environment they are present in could possibly support subbs. IMO.
what else comprised that mound they were growing in? dig a few inches into it if you have to. cuz it looks a bit like stable waste ive searched in for subbs. and i seem to find occasionally woodchips in those too.


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My Panaeolus subbalteatus Guide
http://www.shroomery.org/9608/Subbedhunter420s-Guide-to-Hunting-and-Identifying-Panaeolus-subbalteatus

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Re: possable subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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mj,you need to put your glasses on buddy.this is ferrets'thread.no problem though, everyone gets confused sometimes.:eek:

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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mj, the thread was started by wickedferret. They are his pictures, he asked if they were subbs. These are the types of small mistakes that you continuously make that make it difficult to trust your more serious advice.

And let me get this straight, in your reasoning for why they aren't subbs, you say that the images in the first picture appear to show a zonate pattern (as subbs often do), but that other mushrooms can show similar bands of color at times. Therefore these aren't subbs? You don't have to have taken a logic course to know that this is flawed reasoning. We already know that you don't think these are subbs, but we would like some real clarification. You probably know more about subbs than anyone here, yet just taking your word for it is counter to the whole philosphy behind a discussion forum.

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: xmush]
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more importantly he wants me to know they are not subbs and as far as I know I never said they were,for all I know they are pterodactyl eggs.

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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.... John, I..... Well, I'll be back when there is some sort of evidence or reasoning explained.


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Re: possible subbs? [Re: CureCat]
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YYOu cure cat, I really do not have to explain anything. Think what you want to.

Subbs grow in topsoil in the pnw in January and February as in this image from the mj site.


There are wood chips in the garden, but the subbs are growing from the topsoil and the fertilizers used in the topsoil from the Hay compost used with hickory nuts. And I am not going to go in that.

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: mjshroomer]
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That's fine, no one really has to explain anything unless they want people to understand and believe what they are saying.

I do not think what I want. I think about things on the basis of logic. If i thought whatever I wanted to, I would believe in an after life.

So basically, we all agree that if the mushrooms ferret posted are subbs, than they should be growing from a substrate beneath the wood chips.
Which means they could still be subbs.


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Re: possible subbs? [Re: CureCat]
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damn lmfao u guys had me in happy tears.  :nicekitty:<--- to cure cat. lmfao man and i know that they look like OJ gloves but .....[image][/image]  lol and i think they (the shrooms) might just be growing up through a thin layer of wood chips. and yes i am over me n purples little brawl. but i am going to go take some pics. and guys.... I FOUND THE MACRO!!!!! lol so i will post them and take a better print. i will be on later after i get back. but for now, wish me luck. and also are there any poisonous shrooms that these could be if not i will try them and see if they are psychoactive. 

:mushroomgrow:


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lol i just lied to whoever was reading that.....

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Re: possible subbs? [Re: wikedferret]
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oh and the gloves i wear more for a kick i know that im not going to get poisoned i wash my hands before i do anything.


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lol i just lied to whoever was reading that.....

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