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OfflineAsianYumYum
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Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know!
    #5502975 - 04/11/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok i've been lurking in the hunting section for a while now since the start of the season and all im hearing is shit about psilocybes. it's just damn irritating!!! i mean, what about all those seasoned subb hunting vets out there!!!! labouring away for days getting enough for 1 measley dose. battling 'foes' at every turn. running from mall security with pounds of active materials that weren't necisarily paid for.
Well, the season's starting and there is supposed to be a lot of rain during this week. i thought i'd repost the info i gathered last season to encourage some shroomites here to get out and find some actives in ohio.

So here goes: my experience hunting panaeolus subbalteatus.
-First off, get a field guide. there's nothing worse than someone who doesn't know what they're doing eating something they think is active and might not even be edible. no trip is worth risking your life. be 100% sure of a shroom before you just stick it in your mouth
-next, in my experience horse fields are crap. some of the biggest healthiest subbs i've found have been there,

but not in the quantity or reliability of other places. and there's no use risking a shotgun blast to the chest for some shit covered subbs!
-ok so where do I hunt? I have found that three things make a place perfect for growing mass quantities of ohio subbs. Well kept, well manured grass (the kind that's so green you want to just roll in it all day), a nice, man-made pond or fountaine, and geese. It's me theory that the geese are spore carriers, and they usually hang around these pond places.
-I have a lot of luck at local industrial parks and malls, they have places just like i've described
-get some sporeprints!!! i've had foes that mimic subbs so much that i want to beat the crap out of them. but you'll want to get some anyways to compare sporeprints. i carry a peice of paper with me at all times that shows some prints i took of subbs and foes right next to one another. you want them to be JET black. here's an example


-be familiar with the habits of the pann subb. Twisty stems, crowded gills, ring around the cap, sometimes conical,

sometimes flat and deformed. I've hunted in many places and the best thing to remember is ALL SUBBS ARE DIFFERENT
-Well the best tip i can give you is to find someone who knows what they're doing and hunt with them. There is no greater experience then field experience. plus with two people, you'll yeild more, and people will be less likley to confront you. Bond with your fellow ohio-ans!!!

Well that's about all the help i can give. Get your arses up early enough to put this to good use! it's my experience that most subbs dry out really quick so HUNT BEFORE NOON! there is supposed to be some nice rain this week so get out there!!! GOOD HUNTING!


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5503163 - 04/11/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

damn i wish shit like that grew in new england


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: boomerman]
    #5503185 - 04/11/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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damn i wish shit like that grew in new england




Uhh, do you mean the new england area in the USA??
They do grow there.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5503277 - 04/11/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Also, bales of rotting straw are great places to find subbs, especially in shady nooks. I prefer subb over cubes anyday, and I'm going to try to cultivate them this summer.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: nycomyco]
    #5503380 - 04/11/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great post, thanks for the info. I've got some good areas scoped out and hopefully I will find some of these wonderful mushies this spring.

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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: xmush]
    #5503625 - 04/11/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes good luck to you all.

to boomer- i thought they did grow in new england, but i haven't hunted out there hehe. and nice signiture man i love megadeth
to nyco- yeah some of my freinds like subb trips better. the only time i tried them i was already on cubes and 2ci so surprise surprise i didn't feel anything, well anything new hehe. so i wouldn't know. good luck cultivating, let me know how it goes i might try and save some prints from this hunting season and try myself


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5504929 - 04/11/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

do you think i could find them in my area? central cali? hella rain this year. i mean alot.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: TheShroomNinja]
    #5505341 - 04/11/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

absolutely. i know they are found all down the coast.
i think rather LARGE quantities have been discovered in Cal


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5505739 - 04/11/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

subs grow nearly everywhere... i'm looking forward the the season here in north eastern kansas... they usually follow the morels and precede the chanterelles.

georgem


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: georgeM]
    #5505851 - 04/11/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok well. i should be lookin around this rainy cold time right? in where?


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: TheShroomNinja]
    #5506913 - 04/12/06 07:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can find them year round in the mushroom hunting FAQ


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Mead]
    #7396739 - 09/11/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nice post, asianyumyum... I sent you a PM...


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: andrewss]
    #7396764 - 09/11/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This is an old post that you bumped, but I'm glad you did, the part about geese is interesting. Geese, as horses do, eat grass. I'm going to check out some geese stomping grounds.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: falcon]
    #7396778 - 09/11/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

^ Yeah, I know it was old, but I am trying to get info about ohio hunting, this is a good thread. :laugh:


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: andrewss]
    #7396789 - 09/11/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it is a good thread, I skimmed it the first time it was up and missed the part about the geese, thanks for bumping it.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: falcon]
    #7396802 - 09/11/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, and about subb hunting, since well manicured grass lawns with fertilizer works well, would they pop up on golf courses? Just a thought.

Oh, and I am kicking myself for this because I help a neighbor out a good bit and about a month or 2 ago I found some mushrooms on the lawn (very lush well kept and fertilized lawn) and I do believe they were subbs from what I now know... if only I knew more about them back then :frown:


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: andrewss]
    #7396841 - 09/11/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Golf courses? never hunted subbs there, they should, find edibles there.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: falcon]
    #7396851 - 09/11/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I might have to go golfing soon :laugh: (hehe)


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: andrewss]
    #7397609 - 09/11/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that's the thing about subbs. If you don't know about them, you'll find a ton of them. The minute you start looking, it's "What the hell happened to all the little pretty belted mushrooms I use to find and throw away?"

I have pictures of cubes with subbs IN THE SHOT, and I overlooked them.

grrrrr

fuckin' subbs. always hiding from a ninja...


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7399267 - 09/12/07 01:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Subbs are not the best mushrooms to have a trip from, taste really bad, very low potency they are not worth the effort for me.

Altough if i were in an area with no other psilocybian mushrooms around i would definately go for them....

but since my area is crowded with actives i think i just keep skiping the subbs, they look beautiful tough. but i once eat a lot of subbs and didnt have a very strong trip
like 25 subbs i ate whereas i only eat 4 of other mushrooms and easily double the effects of those subbs


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AIRDOG]
    #7400456 - 09/12/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

subbs are significantly smaller and weigh less than the majority of active mushrooms out there.

They can possibly have much higher doses of active compounds in them if you hunt for them at night when they are fruiting. (like 2 or 3 am) for the heat wont get to their frail bodies like it does around 2 pm.

Dont skip subbs. they WILL suprise you eventually if you keep trippin on em. i ate 4 grams of subbs and they blew away the 3 grams of cubensis i ate the month prior. i will never take cubes again.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AIRDOG]
    #7400561 - 09/12/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Subbs are not the best mushrooms to have a trip from, taste really bad, very low potency they are not worth the effort for me.




Taste bad? In my opinion, the taste is quite mild. Relative to other actives, the taste is good.

Not the best mushrooms to have a trip from? This is a matter of personal taste, but many people enjoy this species and its unique offerings.

Very low potency and not worth the effort? In my experience the potency is low, however, not much effort is required if you find a large patch.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: scout24]
    #7402167 - 09/12/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i was walking past a soccer field with a lot of goose crap, and i am pretty sure i saw subbs but i was busy at the time. so i come back later to see a soccer team running up and down the field trampling them to mush:sad:


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7402183 - 09/12/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've found tons of subbs in cincinnati. I always find them on freshly laid sod. I have also found them at the horse track stables. I normally don't bother with them as I have a few patches of ovoidecystia?? in the Nati area. They don't seem very potent out there but i'm used to psilocybe species.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Boomers420]
    #7402248 - 09/12/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

this is kind of a dumb question but what exactly is sod?


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7402323 - 09/12/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have new grass that I put in just a few months ago. I'm in the bay area cali and lately it's been cloudy but no rain. Shouldn't watering it do the same thing as rain? Also, anything I can do to have more likely of a chance to see mushrooms pop up on my lawn? Would walking on it lessen the chances of them?


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    #7402377 - 09/12/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

nope. only nature can... unless you have a backpack full of liquid culture and youre sprayin that shit all over the neighborhood...
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    #7403255 - 09/13/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So just out of curiosity, what does the rain provide that watering doesn't? Keep in mind the conditions for the last couple days was like rainy weather minus the rain.


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    #7403727 - 09/13/07 03:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Cubes are weak too and also taste like shit. subbs may be more potent, i dunno, but woodchip and soil mushrooms are the way to go if you can find em. I dont like dung mushrooms anymore


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: AIRDOG]
    #7403848 - 09/13/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if you don't like cubes, get copes...


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7404007 - 09/13/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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nope. only nature can... unless you have a backpack full of liquid culture and youre sprayin that shit all over the neighborhood...
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I dunno man, I worked at this company two years ago and they had sod. It was in the middle of july....like 80-90 out.....and they had a sprinkler system on every night and mid day, and low and behold thousands of subbs. No rain had been in the area for weeks and I filled two mcdonalds bags up.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: vandago]
    #7404243 - 09/13/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well, vandago is right... i also have had the same things occur this summer yet the sprinkler system and sod is an exception as it mimics an unnatural yet very good setting in some instances causing huge flushes of subbs. yeah it happens but this isnt something that can be duplicated easily.

ive had sod on my yard for a month now and have yet to see even mycelium growing even though ive been dropping LC and spores on the entire thing. Its ill say... unusual when huge flushes occur on lawns. definitely not impossible though.


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7405499 - 09/13/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

>I dunno man, I worked at this company two years ago and they had sod. It was in the middle of july....like 80-90 out.....and they had a sprinkler system on every night and mid day, and low and behold thousands of subbs. No rain had been in the area for weeks and I filled two mcdonalds bags up.

what kind of company was this, i wanna work there!


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    #7406828 - 09/13/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Haha, no you don't.  It was telemarketing.  One room called christians for donations.  One room called republicans for donations.  I raised money for newt gingrich and gave 90 year old ladies Bill O'Reilly books. :frown:


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Re: Ohio subb hunting!!! all you need to know! [Re: vandago]
    #7461550 - 09/27/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Central-ohio has gotten a good bit of rain the past 2 days... I spotted 3 mushrooms in a shaded area of my parents lawn today... they all looked well past their prime though. I didnt pick them because I didnt have a camera on me. They kinda looked like pan subbs's - they were WET and when I touched the gills it was like I had black ink on my hand. Anyway, I let em stay there. Would you suppose more should pop up? They were growing in well shaded grass that usually keeps moisture pretty long, plus there I spotted some of that little ball type fert still around (not much at all, just a few of those balls).


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