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Re: DMT [Re: retrospect]
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retrospect said:
I read in the spirit molecule the thing which stopped DMT was in the gut?

Quote:
"Most curious is the fact that when taken orally, DMT is metabolized and deactivated by a particular gastric enzyme. But certain chemicals in the yage vine counter the action of this stomach enzyme, thereby allowing the DMT to circulate through the bloodstream and into the brain, where it triggers intense visions and supernatural experiences."



It says it's a stomach enzyme.



That just goes along with what I was saying.
It is primarily a digestive enzyme....
So maybe it is possible to snort it.
It sure as hell works when injected.

The nose is just not a very direct route. However, its pretty damn close to the brain.

An interesting side note:
If the nose works, then it would work sublingually aswell.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: DMT [Re: DeathCompany]
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DeathCompany said:
And the link i posted early said the author found it his favorite method of ingestion. I take it you didn't read?



Nope, sorry.

I will though.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: DMT [Re: yageman]
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Good point! It should work sublingual if it works nasally. Doesn't sublingual method take up to half an hour to take effect, doesn't that mean the bloodstream under the tongue must go somewhere else around the body before going to the brain?

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Re: DMT [Re: retrospect]
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Sublingual takes as long as the drug will allow/

Yep, just like the nose.

SO im not sure if you are off base by trying to make fun of my obvious ignorance, or if you really thought what I said was a good point. Either way, without any experience of my own with snorting, assing, or sublingually using nn-dmt, I though what I said was an interesting observation.

Sublingual salvia takes about 2 min for me. Peaks in 13 or so mins.
It depends on the drug and how in interacts with your brain .

If what you all say is true, then dmt should work in atleast a similare fashion when used sublingually.

Just like with a mouth full of coke, or salvia.

Edited by yageman (03/26/07 08:42 PM)

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Re: DMT [Re: yageman]
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The person in the post made by deathcompany has a whole bunch of issues with just being wrong. I dont doubt sublingual or snuffed nn-dmt anymore after reading that link and others.

Ground and peppered dmt plants are mixed with ash. DMT plants are not made into ash in any traditional snuff.

Thye ash is made from other plants as a base for the resins and ground dmt-plant matter.

Snuffs are made from 5-meo-dmt containing plants.
Wouldnt these same tribes be using viridis as a snuff(it being the most nn-dmt rich plant in the area of such tribes).

No, They didnt use it as snuff. They used 5-meo-dmt dominant plants as snuffs because they work VERY well by themselves.

Im not saying that nn-dmt snuffs cant work. Im just saying that there a better links out there.

Sublingual must work if snorting does.

That my only real point.
Im a student when it comes to this subject, and have questions.

Any info that doesnt suck is appreciated.

Apparently it does work to some degree.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (03/26/07 08:39 PM)

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Re: DMT [Re: yageman]
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I'd think that plugging would work too, as it should get directly into the blood stream. Right?


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Re: DMT [Re: yageman]
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yageman said:
Sublingual takes as long as the drug will allow/

Yep, just like the nose.

SO im not sure if you are off base by trying to make fun of my obvious ignorance, or if you really thought what I said was a good point. Either way, without any experience of my own with snorting, assing, or sublingually using nn-dmt, I though what I said was an interesting observation.

Sublingual salvia takes about 2 min for me. Peaks in 13 or so mins.
It depends on the drug and how in interacts with your brain .

If what you all say is true, then dmt should work in atleast a similare fashion when used sublingually.

Just like with a mouth full of coke, or salvia.



no it was a genuine comment i wasnt making fun of you. i found it very intereting when u said that as it never crossed my mind. i was thinking lsd when i said it takes 30 mins to take effect as lsd under the tongue takes that long. so i suppose thats just the drug, so snorting lsd would take 30 mins to take effect aswell>?

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Re: DMT [Re: retrospect]
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I don't think this has been mentioned explicitly yet, so i'd just like to point out that some of the amazonian tribes which first bought the western world into contact with DMT utilized a snuff based on high alkaloid plant material, so it's probably the original means of administration.

haha, i don't know what's funnier: an american wandering through the rainforest jamming random plants up his nose or an aborigine freebasing DMT with a torch lighter on the banks of the Amazon river.

Edited by Chesh (03/27/07 06:49 PM)

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Re: DMT [Re: Chesh]
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Chesh said:
I don't think this has been mentioned explicitly yet, so i'd just like to point out that some of the amazonian tribes which first bought the western world into contact with DMT utilized a snuff based on high alkaloid plant material, so it's probably the original means of administration.

haha, i don't know what's funnier: an american wandering through the rainforest jamming random plants up his nose or an aborigine freebasing DMT with a torch lighter on the banks of the Amazon river.



That was probably the original route. Many think so. Im sure some existing tribes say so.
I would guess that ayahuasca came first, but without the dmt plants.
Some of these tribes that are still around in SA, claim that the ayahuasca vine told them about the dmt plants.

Still, snuffs are made with 5-meo-dmt dominant plants.
Not nn-dmt.

Yopo, Cohoba, Vilca.........These are snuffs.
They are made with the Anadenanthera peregrina, or colubrina primarily.

Their main active ingredients when snorting are 5-meo-dmt, and Bufotenin.
Bufotenin being the primary active.

So snuffs are more along the lines of toad venom than they are nn-dmt.

As for the nn-dmt dominant plants first methods of use, I would guess ayahuasca.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (03/27/07 07:10 PM)

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