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johnm214



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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
#8133556 - 03/11/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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why would he die cuz he's injecting?
What's different than eating it or rectally administering it? ITs not like your rectum is particularly picky about what it lets into your bloodstream.
Other than the drug itself, the only signifigant problem I see is the issue of sterility.
He didn't synthesise this himself, he extracted it. Presuming he did recrystalisations properly (not evaporating the solvent to dryness, but rather crystalising out of water/ethanol or something) any of the organics and possible inorganics should have been removed. I've done water/EtOH recrystalisations of synthetic products that got me to 99.5%+.
Nothing is guarenteed, and I've never done this, but I dont' imagine its particularly dangerous other than the infection risk, and not much more dangerous than a rectal administration.
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Zinglons Acolyte
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: Robo]
#8133578 - 03/11/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zinglons Acolyte said: use a catheter?
dmt right up the peehole
not what i was talking about... whats the word... its what they use as a port for the IV drip so they can disconnect the bag without redoing the needle... they tape it into ur vein and it stays there and they put the needle into the end of the tube so they dont have to bother finding a vein or shit
ya i just looked it up, catheter is the right term for this...
get yer minds out of the gutter
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implee
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A drip you mean? Thats what i said you can controll how fast the drop injects into your veins and you tape the needle to your arm and the tubing goes to the bag/drip system. You can crank it up or turn it off
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demiu5
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: johnm214]
#8133655 - 03/11/08 07:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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johnm214 said: why would he die cuz he's injecting?
What's different than eating it or rectally administering it? ITs not like your rectum is particularly picky about what it lets into your bloodstream.
Other than the drug itself, the only signifigant problem I see is the issue of sterility.
He didn't synthesise this himself, he extracted it. Presuming he did recrystalisations properly (not evaporating the solvent to dryness, but rather crystalising out of water/ethanol or something) any of the organics and possible inorganics should have been removed. I've done water/EtOH recrystalisations of synthetic products that got me to 99.5%+.
Nothing is guarenteed, and I've never done this, but I dont' imagine its particularly dangerous other than the infection risk, and not much more dangerous than a rectal administration.
have you read chinacat's thread? we're talking a guy who has been printed, and eaten copious amounts of drugs at an incredibly high level, who almost had heart failure (read all the symptoms described to him by his wife and you'll see) on a dose of iv dmt. in most of strassman's accounts, the patients all reached very, very high levels of blood pressure. if the body reacted too sporadically (i.e. heart problems, or a drastic spike in body temperature) you're looking at the possibility of some serious health issues including death
as far as oral administration goes, by the time the capsule starts to dissolve, the stomach acids have already begun working (considering they are always present to varying degrees) whereas if he puts an impure product into his veins, there are no acids to neutralize the contaminants
this is not something that should be taken lightly and i don't understand why most people in this thread are doing so
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johnm214



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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
#8133697 - 03/11/08 08:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree, which is why I sad the drug itself and the infection risk are the main forseeable problems. All these seretonergic hallucinogens can cause circulatory problems. I'd certainly tread slowly.
I'm just saying that an injection vs GI administered dose that reaches a similar plasma concentration is likely similarly safe/dangerous.
I have no idea how prone DMT is to inducing circulatory problems.
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: johnm214]
#8133759 - 03/11/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just have to ask about those trying to dissuade the poster from injecting due to the potential miniscule impurities...
How many orders of magnitude higher do you think the impurity levels of your average street grade H are?
I'm not saying go ahead and shoot up impure substances... I'm just saying everything is relative, it seems to me like this guy has some good product.
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demiu5
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there isn't lye and/or oil-based solvents in heroin
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d4a2n0k
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
#8133918 - 03/11/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You have made some mighty fine points on the side of caution in this thread, but seriously, does any one really know what is in street heroin?
I would say the manufactures and dealers could care less what they put into the product, just as long as it wont immediately kill people.
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Robo
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8133927 - 03/11/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whatever it is that's extracted from the opium poppy and converted to heroin has to be converted by chemical means though, right?
Possibility for leftover traces and impurities right there.
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bmiles
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8133994 - 03/11/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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have you decided yet if you are going to do it?
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Zinglons Acolyte
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: implee]
#8134032 - 03/11/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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implee said: A drip you mean? Thats what i said you can controll how fast the drop injects into your veins and you tape the needle to your arm and the tubing goes to the bag/drip system. You can crank it up or turn it off
a drip minus the bag and drip, u put a syringe in the port and it just acts like a port with a syringe, instead of having to deal with a needle its a needless syringe, so u dont have to worry about stabbing yourself
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12468
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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8134193 - 03/11/08 09:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This seems like a pretty bad idea.
I think you're going to learn a pretty hard lesson there homie. Things are going to get put into perspective for you, probably bigtime.
Can't say I haven't thought about it myself, but my needle days are over.
Not saying don't do it - just make sure you understand the risks & be smart
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
#8134236 - 03/11/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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demius said: there isn't lye and/or oil-based solvents in heroin
couldn't be farther from the truth.
anyway this dude seems like he knows what he's doing, and that his product is 100 million times cleaner and safer than street heroin.
if you got a good healthy heart i say go for it.
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: 12468]
#8134316 - 03/11/08 09:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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12468 said: This seems like a pretty bad idea.
I think you're going to learn a pretty hard lesson there homie. Things are going to get put into perspective for you, probably bigtime.
Can't say I haven't thought about it myself, but my needle days are over.
Not saying don't do it - just make sure you understand the risks & be smart
He's not shooting heroin he's shooting DMT.
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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8134371 - 03/11/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think the safest bet for OP would be to avoid shooting his home-'purified' DMT. leave it either to someone who can produce garunteed pharm-grade DMT and give that to him, or is in an environment where safety is 100% garunteed
i know with the drug world safety is never 100% garunteed in all aspects of recreational use, but if this is moreso recreational use and search of a 'greater high/experience' then it is best left until it is genuinely for research purposes or a self-exploration.
in sometihng as serious as this, it would be best for OP to wait until the conditions are perfect
until then
SLAM THAT SHIT UP UR POOPER
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: indica]
#8134532 - 03/11/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread makes me wonder where has Crystal G gone?
How hard is it to shoot up a rat? Seems they would have mostly small veins but at least some big enough. May help to solve the contaminate questions anyway. Just a thought.
I doubt there is a problem with the purity. I'm just guessing like most here though. Not being an IV user I can't really speak from experience.
Surely there are people somewhere who have shot up home extracted DMT and can speak out. Or are there?
The DMT NEXUS site comes to mind but I have not checked it out in regards to this. Has anyone else?
I'd honestly like to know more about the safety of this for my own reasons.
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Thulsa Doom
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just relax your asshole like you are gonna take a shit, and just poke it up your ass, and kind of rub it against the side wall. IT should absorb. Then make you sure dont take a shit, tila fter you tripped.
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bmiles
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: Thulsa Doom]
#8134594 - 03/11/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thulsa Doom said: just relax your asshole like you are gonna take a shit, and just poke it up your ass, and kind of rub it against the side wall. IT should absorb. Then make you sure dont take a shit, tila fter you tripped.
do this with the extra dmt you have left over.
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demiu5
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KrishnaDreamer said:
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demius said: there isn't lye and/or oil-based solvents in heroin
couldn't be farther from the truth.
anyway this dude seems like he knows what he's doing, and that his product is 100 million times cleaner and safer than street heroin.
if you got a good healthy heart i say go for it.
why don't you educate me, then
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
#8134976 - 03/11/08 11:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry for singling you out there, but it seemed like you were saying that street heroin was cleaner than home baked drugs, which is false.
first of all the heroin and cocaine produced in mexico are made with shit like gasoline, im not too sure about other procedures and what kind of shit they use but im sure its equally nasty.
then you have cuts which people use to make more profit, which i'm sure i don't have to explain. theres a lot of stupid people out there that will cut their product with stupid shit.
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