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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Mushroom_Mike]
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i'm tempted to try this, although i only have .5 grms of shrooms left with none in the near future.
Is it worth trying that amount or just wait a few months til i've grown more?

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: evildacat]
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If you'll grow more in a couple of months then you'll have plenty then, so you can take the 0.5gr now. If you're of average sensitivity I'd definitely do it with Lemon.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Asante]
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i have, quite impressed i would say it double the effects no mind shattering but good for .5grms. these were mexican hutuala's and i had previous had some form the same batch so i know thier strenght.

Gonna try to get my mits on some more over the weekend, might get lucky at few parties.
good work whoever discovered this.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: evildacat]
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i have had them, not bad at all knowing the batch and strain myself as i grew them i wouldsay the effect was doubled but lasted very very briefly under an hour for myself.
i normally take fresh shrooms and alot (average bout 40grms) and i have quite a tolerance for most things. having taken mushrooms repeatidly for many years i definatly can say there was a noticalbe improvement.
when i get my hands on a decent quantity of shrooms i shall try it with more and hopefully the time of the trip won't be altered as much with a larger quantity.

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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I have tried this method (or similar at least), could i also sugest one of my favourites - making chilli con carne! Simply lightly fry shrooms in olive oil (+/- 3 mins and then add the rest of the ingredients meat/quorn etc. Then let it simmer for around 30 mins. Can hit you in 10 mins!!! You can also make curry or whatever.
Enjoy!


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: DrJ]
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Jesus, can you actually eat them that way? You have a very strong stomach
I can tell.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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When doing this method, do we have to use a coffee grinder to produce a very fine powder or is something such as choping them up finely alright?

I've ground them up using other peoples coffee grinders before but right now I don't have access to one. Any idea where I could pick up a cheap one that will suite my needs.

Edited by kciN (03/16/06 10:19 PM)

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: kciN]
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One way to get them ground up is with a shotglass and a pair of scissors...Its kind of fun and I have had good luck

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: nostrafrog]
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A coffee grinder is cheap and easy. No need to use alternatives.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Left Nut City]
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I have tried this method (or similar at least), could i also sugest one of my favourites - making chilli con carne! Simply lightly fry shrooms in olive oil (+/- 3 mins and then add the rest of the ingredients meat/quorn etc. Then let it simmer for around 30 mins. Can hit you in 10 mins!!! You can also make curry or whatever.
Enjoy!



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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: inv3rse]
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I'm not sure what to make of my experiment, too many confounding factors, but I'll describe it anyway. We tried Wiccan_Seeker's Vitamin C method, ground up 1.5 g of vitamin c pills in a shot glass with 1-2 ounces of water, soaked ground up shrooms in there for 15 minutes, did the shot, used some juice to get all the remnants out. I ate a bowl of cereal about 4-5 hours before. I used only 1 gram of mushrooms, and eventually I got some pretty bad discomfort and anxiety. My friend K did one gram, no discomfort or anxiety, A did .5 grams and had a good, light trip the entire time, B did 2 grams and felt great the whole time. About an hour in we smoked a joint with weed, but also a blend of other things including wormwood, catnip, wild dagga, blue and white lotus that I got from iamshaman. About 90 minutes in, I ate 2 more grams with an english muffin and peanut butter and drank some ginger tea to ease my stomach. We smoked another joint and listened to dark side of the moon and I was starting to feel good again. We went outside for a walk, but eventually I started to feel really cold and anxious and worried, eventually came back inside, had a nervous breakdown for an hour, then calmed down and watched some Family Guy and laughed harder than I ever have in my life.
All in all, I would say that the vitamin C method worked, because the trip seemed a lot more intense than usual, although it's hard to say because of the weird drugs we also smoked. I'm going to try again with lemon juice in about a month.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: DrGeek]
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I decided to try this out the other night.  I also decided that the people I was journeying with would try it out as well, lol.

So I prepared 1.8g for myself, which soaked in a shot of lemon juice for about 20 min; 1.5g for my girl, which soaked for about 17 min; and 1.6g for my bud, which soaked for about 15 min.  The difference in soaking time was really due to the time it took to weigh out the powder and make sure it was all soaking in juice from dose to dose, and not really because I was testing the length of soak as a variability.

So after the 15-20 min soak, we each drank the lemon juice mushy mix as a shot and chased it with cranberry juice.  My girl and my friend both started climbing sooner than I did, noticing effects within about 25 minutes.  It took me about 35-40 to notice anything, which wasn't bad considering I ate a bunch of fried chicken and rice like 4 hours prior.

Overall, the trip wasn't really intense for me, but it was extremely enjoyable.  A lot of laughing, some deep thinking, and general feelings of euphoria.  I don't think I'd consider the trip equal to a 4g trip, but it was probably one of my most pleasent ones overall to date.

My girl, however, said that it was the most intense and pleasurable trip she's ever had; and for reference, she's eaten as much as 2.5g dried and 26g fresh, usually averaging a 1.75-2g dried dose.

My friend also had a good time, with a trip more like mine, but slightly more intense with more visuals I believe. 

Altogether, it was a great time.  The lemon juice masked the mushroom taste like crazy, and I just plain love the taste of cranberry juice.  Truthfully, I think the awesomeness of the trip had more to do with the setting, and less to do with the method of consumption. 

Conclusion, I can't exactly determine whether there was a potency increase, however I do know that this is now my standard method of consumption.  It masked the taste great, I had an awesome trip, and both of my companions had a stronger than normal trip so maybe I had a fluke experience.  Even if it doesn't potentiate, it's still a great method of consumption.  Good shit :thumbup:


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Enough collective evidence to constitute a study ?? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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We probably have more guinea pigs than the men in white coats would have access to!

in short vitamin C works.. this was done in the same set/dose/method excluding vit.C
3 months prior, so no tolerance was in effect in either case.

Here we go..

Tripping for 10-12 years, ave. dose 1.5 - 4g dried (always liberties, abundance is fortunate). In a good place phys/mentally....as one can be.

I should put this down in a report sometime, it was extreme in beauty, weirdness, and euphoria.

On an empty stomach....Day trip.
Set: my house alone.
On a normal journey it would be in the woods at night with 3 or 4 exp trippers, and usually 1 or 2 non trippers. (that REALLY is another stories!!)

approx 50 fruits (2g Dried) Semilanceata (tea low simmer 70-80C / 158-176F  for 20Min's) approx 3oz tea when prepared... this is always amazing even without OJ. This field must contain a particularly potent strain... would not recommend this to the inexperienced.

+ FRESH SQUEEZED OJ. 3oz

T +10 Min's first effects (normally 25-30Min's)

T +20 Min's 1st visuals (normally 30-45Min's)

T +35-40 Min's peak (normally 50-60Min's)

T +45-70 Min's 0.2-0.3g marijuana smoked (cant be sure on time with this one!)

T +120-130 Min's diminished effects. (about 60Min's shorter)

T +300 Min's baseline  (again 60 Min's less) ......erm aaargh! tired but happy :smile:.

and on a responsible note,
I think shrooms of this potency and above really shouldn't be taken lightly !!

Trip safe,
Happy Trraiillsssss....


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Re: Enough collective evidence to constitute a study ?? [Re: PlatformStrange]
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tried this method 4 times now
each time different results 2 different shroom strains (dunno which)

basically first time did a little tasting

with about 0.3 grams with 2 freshly squeezed lemons
come-up was about 30 minutes peak about 1:15 and body high was going for about 2 and a half hours

next time i did 0.6 grams though it was within 5 days after the first time so it wasn't intense at all just body high for about 3 hours


next time within 2 weeks after second time different shrooms

about 0.8 with 1 and a half lemon
this one was the most intense and i almost freaked out, felt like 2-2.5 grams if eaten
* side note: i smoked a fatty before consumed and another tiny one about an hour in, and ate little bit of ice cream just after drinking the slush

made the come up bit longer (around 35-45minutes)

next week did it alone about 0.5 grams with one lemon squeezed and this time did indeed freak out had a bad trip.


also figured its definately not worth squeezing more than 1 lemon per gram of powder. Makes my stomach go pretty fucking crazy, while makes not a whole lot of difference on effects.

Will continue to experiment and report here.

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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will this work also for a chocolate??? like drink the cranberry and lemon juice after i eat it? :mushroom2:

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: shroom1234]
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my friend told me about that trick a while back, but the way he said to do it was to get a 4oz glass, fill it with lemon concentrate and squeezed lemons, and then add your powdered mush, wait 10 mins, then shoot it back. I think it has to do with the same way your stomach acids break it down, same sorta deal, but its slready reacting with the acids in the juice, there by hittin yeah like a sack of bricks.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: pipedream82]
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so if i have about a gram of stems left, and i usually trip off an eighth, i should be able to grind em up and do the shot, and i'll be able to have a decent trip?


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: shane]
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in theory, yes. although i am now more convinced that grapefruit would work better, jusgeing by that one thread


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: the_psychonaut]
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I'm sorry to rub it in with the sceptici but the Lemon method really works.

In the past few months my friends and I have prepared over ten doses via the Lemon tek, and it worked *every time* both as a standalone and as a booster dose on the tail end of another psychedelic.

And we're doing it with really low dosages too!

0.25gr --> 0.5-0.75gr
0.5gr --> 1-1.5gr

Consistently we get a 2-3x potentiation on these low doses, a rapid smooth development and a plateau which roughly lasts until +2:30h instead of +3:00h, but still with a lot of memory on the +4:00h point.

This method surely is no lemon!
At the higher dosages most often used in this thread it might be hard to estimate potency, but not so with these low ones.

I'm very sensitive to psychedelic action, at least twice as sensitive to the effects of all psychedelics I've tried. With a certain batch of shroom powder there is a shift at around 0.75gr where my mind becomes so dynamic that I might get into difficulties. Lower doses just don't do that, it's a distinct and consistent treshold for me.

With the lemon method (I now use an even smaller shot, 0.25-0.5gr in 20-25ml, 15-20min @ RT) 0.25gr gets me close every time, sometimes a bit shy and sometimes over, but 0.5gr always brings me well across that divide.

A friend of mine who gets bored below 1 gram can take care of his needs with 0.5gr/Lemon every time and he rates it equivalent to 1-2gr.
So thats two people with distinct tresholds that are clearly crossed by reduced small quantities of Lemonshroom.

So yes: it works and with over 10 tests in my friends and me, all effective, for me the placebo theory is out the window.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
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has anyone noticed that this method reduces or eliminates nausea?


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