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 Snargly
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 Eatin caps 
#494097 - 12/17/01 06:38 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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The topic of eating caps came up in discussion the other day between me and a few people. I've read on the shroomery that caps contain only spores, and that eating them doesn't make the trip any stronger.
I was wondering how many shroomers eat mushroom caps along with the rest of the mushroom when they trip, or are people more accustomed to saving them for prints?
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 Lallafa
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 Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
#494106 - 12/17/01 06:46 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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caps contain ~the same amount of goodys as the stems
I was wondering how many shroomers eat mushroom caps along with the rest of the mushroom when they trip"
we all do.
you can get the spores from the cap before you eat it
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lissa
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Lallafa]
#494211 - 12/17/01 08:30 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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caps actually contain more goodies than stems.
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windex
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: lissa]
#494233 - 12/17/01 08:53 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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christ how many time do we have to go over this! caps do not conatian any noticable amount more. If you knew this then dont make it out to sound like a bag of stems is worthless.
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Snargly
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 Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
#494332 - 12/17/01 10:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/findorgrowthem.php?View=docs&doc=27
It talks about the caps not having active ingredients in that document, "Notes on the PF TEK." I guess I may have misread, or the document is wrong...
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
#494361 - 12/17/01 11:15 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't stems contain some sort of muscle relaxer. excuse my ignorance if im incorrect.
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stefan
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
#494653 - 12/18/01 09:08 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, eating the caps has no use, the don't contain any active compounds, only spores. So send your caps to me:)
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windex
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: stefan]
#494686 - 12/18/01 09:59 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol, id like to get all the thrown out stems from the ignorant folk who think stems dont have anything.
snargly - yeah i read theat document, look where the guy gets his info.... most of it comes from what he thinks the mushrooms have told him. So take that for what you will. I for one laughed and moved on..
Edited by windex (12/18/01 10:01 AM)
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Snargly
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: windex]
#494731 - 12/18/01 10:45 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I was questioning that mysely, but, come on, it's on THE SHROOMERY for chrissakes! I mean... these guys don't F around ;-)
Thanks a lot guys!
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lissa
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
#494773 - 12/18/01 11:39 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, stems have goodies too... but i'm about 99.9% sure that caps have more psilocybin content than stems.
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gusb232
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: lissa]
#494776 - 12/18/01 11:46 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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but i'm about 100% sure that caps and stems have more psilocybin content .
I know this to be true cuz my dare officer told me so
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gusb232
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: gusb232]
#494781 - 12/18/01 11:53 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Realy as i understand all mycieila cells exectpt for vey young myccelia has the same amount of actice ingredents by weight.
So five caps might not get you to the same level as five stems. but five grams of cap would put you in the same place as five grams of stem.
nuf said..
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cxz
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: gusb232]
#496961 - 12/20/01 12:55 PM (23 years, 30 days ago) |
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YOu guys should read this.
http://www.theforestfloor.org/archives/old_archive/potency_variations_in_cultivated_psilocybe_cubensis.html
Edited by cxz (12/20/01 12:55 PM)
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mjshroomer
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: cxz]
#497945 - 12/21/01 02:20 PM (23 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks for posting my post from the forest floor. I might go ahead in the weeks to come and post the article ont he PNW analyzation of species from the puget sound.
and again the caps usually are equal to the stems, but may vary in cultivated shrooms.
while it is true there are biullions of spores on the gill plates of the shrooms, the gillplates are meatly and contain psilocine and/or psilocybine and so does the skin of the cap, sop there is alot of meat there besides the microscopic spores to eat.
The spores do not contain any compounds at all, at least of the trytamines.
mj
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SherlockDrubu
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By weight, caps have more see-funny content...
Figure like this: 1 mushroom has the same amount of good stuff in the cap as the stem. Break apart. Set seperate.
Another one of DIFFERENT SIZE has the same amount of good stuff in the cap as the stem. Break apart. Set seperate.
Another 6 of the same size (3 inches) has the same amount of good stuff in the cap as the stem. Break apart. Set seperate.
Now weigh your caps... say they weigh 3.5 grams (with the bag)
Now weigh your stems... they weigh 6.5 grams with the bag (they were some fatty stems)
You now have more weight of stems, but the less weight of caps have the same amount of good shit as the bag of stems with a 3 gram difference.
So by weight, caps have more content than stems. The more in weight you have, the more good shit you have.
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Lizard King
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Wrong. As stated 6 or 7 billion times on this very forum before, caps are equal to stems and if anything are slighty less potent at times.
Hey sherlock, you made an oxymoron :) You said that stems weigh more than caps, this is true, you then went on to say in your last sentence "The more in weight you have, the more good shit you have". So how the hell do you figure that caps are more potent?
It is a fact that all parts of the fruit body have roughly the same psilocybin/cin content, the magic is spread equally throughout the shroom. Now like you were saying, if we had 10 shrooms and we seperated caps from stems, we would have a bag of caps that don't weigh even half of what the same number of stems weighs. And you yourself said that the more weight you have the more good shit you have, which would mean you'd get more out of the bag of stems.
Bottom line is it takes more caps than stems 'quanity' wise to trip. Ex. as little as 4 or so stems could weigh 2 grams, but it would take 10-20 caps to equal this weight.
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SherlockDrubu
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No sir... I meant this:
we got 10 stems.... this is the same potency of 10 caps... however, the caps weigh less than the stems. So if you had 5 grams of stems and 5 grams of caps, there would be MORE psilocybin in the 5 grams of caps because quantity wise, there are more caps in 5 grams than there are stems in 5 grams.
10 stems = 4 grams
10 caps = 1.5 grams
they have the same amount of psilocybin, but different weights. If you added roughly 15 more caps, you'd then have 4 g of caps, but much more caps than stems. THUS, MAKING ME RIGHT
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i think you need to shut the fuck up. OR go to the labs, then post your scientific analysis
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SherlockDrubu
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Re: Eatin caps [Re: felix]
#505356 - 12/30/01 09:53 PM (23 years, 19 days ago) |
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I think you need to shut the fuck up...
ITS OBVIOUS STEMS AND CAPS HAVE THE SAME POTENCY.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE 4 GRAMS OF STEMS AND 4 GRAMS OF CAPS THERE IS MORE PSILOCYBIN IN THE 4 GRAMS OF CAPS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES MORE CAPS TO WEIGH 4 GRAMS.
4 grams of stems = 1.5 grams of caps
This is true because there is the same amount of caps as stems, as they were seperated from each other.
When you add more caps to the 1.5 bag, you add more psilocybin. Making the bag weigh 4 grams would add caps to the caps bag, but no stems, meaning no increase in potency of the bag of stems.
SO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP... I HAVE PROVED MY POINT
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stefan
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YOU PROVED NOTHING
yeah, they have the same potency; BY WEIGHT!!!, 1gram caps is as potent as 1gram stems.
so if you still think that 4grams of stems=1,5 grams of caps you're a moron. not trying to piss you off or something but think about it, you're wrong!
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