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Re: Eatin caps [Re: stefan]
    #505763 - 12/31/01 10:15 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Ok... if you have 1 shroom. The psilocybin is spread throughout the the shroom in equal amounts in the cap and stem... however, the stem weighs more. With the varying potency between shrooms, 1 g = 1 g isn't always true because there can be stems or caps from shrooms with little potency at all. Am I making any sense? It sounds right in my head...


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: cxz]
    #505765 - 12/31/01 10:22 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

The site PROVED WHAT I SAID...
http://www.theforestfloor.org/archives/old_archive/potency_variations_in_cultivated_psilocybe_cubensis.html

Quoted from site:
"The cap and stem contained equal amounts of psilocybin."

"IT is clear that entheogenic (Ruck et al., 1979) and recreational users of this species have no way of predicting the amount of psilocybin and psilocin that they are ingesting with a given dry weight of the mushrooms. It thus seems likely that variations in the subjective experience will not only come from the effects of set and setting but will also stem in very real measure rom large dosage differences"

PROOF DAMMIT!



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Re: Eatin caps [Re: SherlockDrubu]
    #505813 - 12/31/01 11:48 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Man, it really fucking blows my mind that this is still even a debate... I thought it was common knowledge by now, stems and caps have almost identical alkaloid content... I have read at least 2 or 3 scientific documentations regarding this topic, one of them even had a mass spectrograph chart for 3 samples of P. cub. stems and caps listing the psilocin/psilocybin/baeocystin/etc content, comparing them... in one of the charts, I think the caps had a miniscule amount higher of one of the alkaloids, but not even close to noticable... do some research people. If I had to choose, I'd rather eat a bag of stems than a bag of caps, I gag on those fuckin caps when they are bone dry and crusty.


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Guyute]
    #506221 - 12/31/01 09:02 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>>I thought it was common knowledge by now, stems and caps have almost identical alkaloid content<<

I TOTALLY AGREE... but when the weight is more in the stems, there requires more caps to equal that weight. In number, a cap compared to a stem is roughly the same... But you need more caps to weigh what the stems weigh... DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND? BTW, I'm shroomin now... ate at 10:00 central


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: SherlockDrubu]
    #506434 - 01/01/02 06:39 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

You?re really a clown.

Potency can only be measured by means of: how many g of the good stuff is there per g of the stuff alltogether.

Meaning: the tryptamine content in 1 g of dried mushroom tissue is for instance 10 mg.
It doesn?t matter what the weight ratio of caps to stems is, as gram per gram, the caps and the stams are equally potent.

We?re not COUNTING the caps and stems, we are WEIGHING them.

>DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND? BTW, I'm shroomin now...
Oh, OK, then you?re excused of having a completely screwed up thinking.


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Anno]
    #508731 - 01/03/02 05:28 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

exactly!


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Guyute]
    #510397 - 01/04/02 06:36 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

(note: I'm changing the topic! :) )

Hell yah, man. Whenever I eat a cap I nearly puke. ick. but whatever, psilocybin is worth it.

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Re: Eatin caps [Re: paraterrestrial]
    #511030 - 01/05/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

well, stems tase better!


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: stefan]
    #511807 - 01/06/02 01:09 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

much better


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Re: Eatin caps [Re: Snargly]
    #516253 - 01/10/02 09:27 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for posting that Snargly, I'll have that document ammended asap.

People, caps/stems..... The SAME..... Eat them and enjoy.


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