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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: abica]
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Edited by Johnny Depp (12/19/14 04:11 AM)

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: ChronicSmoke]
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is that a type of mushroom? Yes johnny it is very intense. overwhelming


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Cactilove]
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LT = lemon tekked


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: k00laid]
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Well i just grinded probably around a teenth of some shrooms in a coffee grinder poured in a glass and added a good amount of lemon juice. waiting to see what happens ill get back to it

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: tarheel]
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Scloretia?  Should work just fine, although personally if I had some, I'd want to just plain eat 'em.  Lucky one to have plenty to tinker with, what fun!  (Of course you'd need to grind 'em, just soaking wouldn't do too much I don't think, especially due to density)

A benefit of using lemon juice is filtering out the mushroom flesh, it seems to cut way down on stomach troubles, as well as quicker onset since the active chemicals are already in solution.  The first time I did it I didn't filter...yuck.  I can still recall the sensation right now- 3 years later.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: abica]
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ha ha i never filter. Down  the hatch they go. IMO nausea is an important part of the mushroom experience.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Cactilove]
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Cactilove said:
ha ha i never filter. Down  the hatch they go. IMO nausea is an important part of the mushroom experience.


:awewtf:

so are hangovers and important part of drinking?


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: k00laid]
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I wanted to know that can i make a lemon tek for fresh mushrooms?
And how?
Thanx

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] *DELETED* [Re: dragoi]
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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Arcturus17]
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THANX MAN ANYWAY!
I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A TRY!

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: dragoi]
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I'd let it sit for longer, and squeeze 'em out real good.  Powder makes for a quick extraction, but fresh should be do-able.  Report your results!


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: dragoi]
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Well since this thread is resurected anyway I might as well put in some input. The few solo trips I've had have been horrible. I would lemon tek 2-4 grams and spend my trip writhing on my bed with intense stomach discomfort and depressing thought loops of why I shouldn't have tripped. Granted, there's a lot of reasons why I could have had the thought loops but lately I've switched to making tea and it seems to hit me just as hard but without the stomach ache (I would eat the soggy lemon soaked mushies after). I've yet to have strong tea by myself so I'm not sure if I would have a bad trip as my friends humour is always great at pulling me out of it. ANYWAYS I think the reason I even started typing was because I think everyone who tries this tek should try plain tea as well because if you're comparing drug dissolved in solution to eating plain fungus of course it's going to hit you harder. The question is whether or not the lemon actually does anything. I've heard it converts 4-PO-DMT to 4-HO-DMT so it hits you harder just like how 4-HO-DiPT hits harder than 4-AcO-DiPT but I'm not sure if that's been proven. Damn I'm tired. Wasn't there a cranberry juice thread too?

edit: guess I'm really tired

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: jellyfish]
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Wow- thanks for the chem theories, even if it would be impossible for those of us without chemistry knowledge or labs to verify.  Interesting stuff!

The last time I made tea, it was roughly similar to a lemon shot.  I prefer lemon juice because it doesn't require heat, is quick to prepare, produces a small amount of liquid to ingest, and with my little method allows easy "precise" dosing based on each person's desires.  So does tea, I guess, but measuring by the shot glass is dead simple.

I have not had any stomach discomfort when filtering the mushroom flesh out of the brew.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: k00laid]
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Ha ha yep that's why they are there, to make you rethink about drinking so much next time.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Cactilove]
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I have done the lemon tek twice now.  Here are my results:



Experience 1 - 0.85 grams:

# What liquid are you using?
mixture of lemon and grapefruit juice- freshly squeezed

# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)
~2 oz

# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")
~20 minutes

# Time to onset of visual disturbance
dunno

# Time to peak (rough estimate)
1 hour

# Time to first sign of diminishing effects
~3.5 hours

# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)
~4.5 hours

Notes: First of all, this "survey" sucks big time.  It should include questions on dosage and species/strain (if known) and wild or grown. This was an extraordinarily powerful trip- particularly for 0.85 grams.  I had taken these mushrooms once prior to this experience and had a fairly overwhelming (but good) trip from about 2 grams.  0.85 grams certainly surprised me.  I tripped with three other people who had 1.15grams lemon tek'd and they were basically unable to move and had powerful visuals.


Experience 2- 0.5grams:

# What liquid are you using?
lemon juice- freshly seqeezed
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# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)
~2 oz
# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")
~45 minutes

# Time to onset of visual disturbance
dunno

# Time to peak (rough estimate)
~1.5-2 hours

# Time to first sign of diminishing effects
~3.5-4 hours

# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)
~4.5 hours

Notes:  This trip utilized two strains grinded up together in a coffee grinder.  The strains were both grown indoors and were Golden Teacher and Ecuador or Cambodian (cannot remember).  Unfortunately both doses of mushrooms were over 6 months old, so it's highly likely that they had lost a great deal potency... or maybe were simply less potent to begin with.

Either way, 0.5g was quite underwhelming.  The others in the group were the same as the previous experience, used 1.25g and also said it was underwhelming.  It was still enjoyable, but just very, very mild.


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So there's two experiences with very opposite results.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: jellyfish]
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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (04/21/23 06:57 PM)

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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faster doesnt always mean more potent :laugh:


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: k00laid]
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a question i have about a lemon tek, i was thinking the other night when i was making a tea, but forgot to check the milk and wrecked it :sad: we'd been away camping for awhile so just didnt think...

iv tried a lemon tek with fresh squeezed lemon and 2g finely chopped cubes, but just couldnt down it because of the vomit like texture. i did get half down, not easily though. i proceeded to just chew down another 4g dry and have a blast!

iv got no problem with the lemon, its just the chunks, the texture.
can i make a tea style of thing? like soak the cubes for **minutes and strain, drink the lemon?

this is sort of what iv been doing with a regular tea, put the cubes in a cup, squeeze in 1/4 a medium~large lemon and let sit for 10minutes, then just make tea as per usual. i dont think i notice any extra kick in potency though, so i presume i need to eat or drink the shoorms too?

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Chicken Nipples]
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i dont rly do the lemon tek per say
i just put a lot of lemon juice into the water when i make cubensis tea.

i dont ever end up eating any mushroom tissue.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: k00laid]
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So compounds found in the lemon fruit:
ppm given when provided

ASCORBIC-ACID 5,208 - 5,566 ppm
ASH 28,000 ppm
BETA-CAROTENE 2 ppm
CAFFEIC-ACID 21 - 35 ppm
CALCIUM 700 - 3,227 ppm
CARBOHYDRATES 111,000 - 863,000 ppm
CITRIC-ACID 59,500 ppm
CITROPTEN
D-GALACTURONIC-ACID
DIOSMIN 5 ppm
ERIOCITRIN 1 ppm
FAT 28,000 ppm
FERULIC-ACID 14 - 40 ppm
FIBER 17,000 - 47,000 ppm
HESPERIDIN 44 ppm
HESPERIDOSIDE
IRON 23 - 72 ppm
KILOCALORIES 2,640 /kg
LAURALDEHYDE
LIMONOATE-A-RING-LACTONE
LUTEIN 0.12 - 1.2 ppm
MUCILAGE
NARINGOSIDE
NIACIN
P-COUMARIC-ACID 6 - 102 ppm
PHOSPHORUS 100 - 1,979 ppm
POTASSIUM 14,700 ppm
PROTEIN 10,000 - 111,000 ppm
RIBOFLAVIN 2 - 3 ppm
RUTIN 1 - 2 ppm
SALICYLATES
SINAPIC-ACID 14 - 18 ppm
SODIUM
THIAMIN 4 - 6 ppm
WATER 850,000 - 894,000 ppm

So that would mean that after water, carbohydrates, and protein, citric acid is the 4the most prevalent compound. This is in the fruit though. In the juice I would be willing to bet that it would be 2nd.

Other acids listed in order of concentration then just as listed for compounds of undetermined concentration:
Ascorbic Acid(vitamin C, which even at its most concentrated level would only be about 1/10 the citric acid content), P-Coumaric-Acid, Ferulic Acid, Caffeic-Acid, Sinapic-Acid, & D-Galacuronic-Acid.

Seeing as psiliocin is a consideration here and considering it's adversion to O2, I thought that the antioxidants in lemon would be worth mentioning. These are the compounds with KNOWN antioxidant properties which also are in significant enough concentrations to consider their role as such:

Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid as an antioxidant synergist, Ferulic-Acid, Hesperidin, P-Coumaric-Acid,

A few other compounds listed above posses antioxidant qualities but were either in insufficient amounts (if alone), or the amount necessary or present was not given.

A list of compounds found in lime fruit were only listed for linden limes I feel like this is not necessarily representative of all compounds found within the limes we use:

ASH 21,000 - 130,000 ppm
ASPARAGINE
CARBOHYDRATES 232,000 - 727,000 ppm
FAT 30,000 - 580,000 ppm
FIBER 135,000 - 423,000 ppm
GLUTAMIC-ACID
GLYCINE
TYROSINE
VALINE
WATER  681,000 ppm

Anyway, you can see that there is certainly a heavy cocktail here. One compound in lemon, rutin, was even listed as having 5-ht blocking action. Who knows at this point? I would be interested to see if a solution of citric acid does the same thing. Or citric acid with a bioflavinoid tablet dissolved. I don't have a mushroom stash at the moment anyways so that's what I've got for the thread as of now.


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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