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    #4702821 - 09/23/05 10:42 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Im in the middle of a extraction and im doing the non-polar extraction (2nd extraction which is don after basification) ( im using mar's tek) and it's been nearly 3 hours since I let it sit after adding the lye and naptha and nothing much has changed. Theres purplish bubbles on top of the liquid in the mason jar. The liquid is brownish and cant see through it. Then theres some particles on the bottom which are light blue to purplish. There is yet to be just two layers: a clear one and a brownish/gunk one at the bottom. Does it just take longer sometimes for it to seperate and make these two layers? If so can I goto bed and just wake up and use a baster to seperate the layers if they've seperated?

Current Layers: 1. Top-layer bubbles on top (purplish color) 2. Middle-layer a dark brown liquid 3. Lowest-layer a light-blue near purlish sludge or some particles at bottom.

Needed Layers: 1. Clear layer (crystal contaning layer) 2. Black/sludge or gunk particles on the bottom of the mason jar.

So question is why havent I gotten the needed layers yet? Can I goto bed and wait till the morning to do anything to it such as using a baster to seperate layers if they have changed?


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4702827 - 09/23/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Did you gently shake? They should most likely by morning separate. The bubbles are normal.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4702834 - 09/23/05 10:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I gently tilited it to one side and back to mix the contents.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4702842 - 09/23/05 10:48 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

They should be separated by morning. Give it some time. Your description sounds normal.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4702853 - 09/23/05 10:51 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

If the bubbles are still present in the morning then you may have something off.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4702913 - 09/23/05 11:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Well I added enough lye Im sure of it because I had Ph 13.6 level. it started turning colors purple to grey then that was it. Then added naptha and then "bubbles" emulsion started again. After I tilted it back and forth for three minutes I let it sit for 3 hours and I got a light purple layer on the bottom and a dark brown or black liquid in the middle and purple bubbles on top still.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4702940 - 09/23/05 11:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Actually the liquid is brown in the middle. The bubbles on top are emulsions. Is there any way to fix this or should I just wait till the morning? Is all compltely lost have I failed? This would really be a shame :frown:


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4702986 - 09/23/05 11:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I would wait until morning.. It can be fixed.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4703035 - 09/23/05 11:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

If it can be fixed could you tell me how to fix it? just incase nothing happens by tommorow morning. Im going to bed now so if anyone can help please do by posting here. I'll check in with you guys tommorow to tell you whats up.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4703185 - 09/23/05 11:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE: I put a light from a flash light against the mason jar to better see the layers. A new layer is forming right above the dark brown liquid and right below the bubbles, which are depeleting. This new layer is alittle darker than the liquid below it but maybe it will clear up? Maybe the darkbrown black sludge is starting to form and the two layers will be showable tommorow OH WELL just havta wait n see just wanted to let you all know about this G'NIGHT.


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4704506 - 09/24/05 09:40 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Well I think in your other posts you said you were using 56 grams of root bark so you would be using a very small amount of naptha. If your contianer is too big then that naptha layer will be very small and hard to see, not to mention hard to suck off the black liquid. If your using a container bigger than a couple of inches in diameter I would try putting it into a tall narrow container. Also, a very handy tip is that to speed up the seperation process you can put it in a hot water bath or just run hot water over the container and it will seperate in about 10-15 minutes.

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Re: DMT Tek [Re: NCognito]
    #4704789 - 09/24/05 11:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Well I woke up and found that there was no seperation. The bubbles are still there and so is all the other layers. So how do I "fix" this?


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4705019 - 09/24/05 12:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Do I addmorelye or naptha?


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4705112 - 09/24/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

You can just ignore the emulsion layer and just drain of the caustic solution and the emulsion just keeping the clear napatha layer. That has worked for my pet emu before. Or try to add salt and stir gently that will reduce the emulsion greatly.


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4705229 - 09/24/05 01:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I have no clear layer. Like I said it's bubbles then a brown liquid layer then 2 layers at bottom one brown otherlight purple. Theres a very thin clear layer above the bubbles though. So how do i go about fixing this?


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4705317 - 09/24/05 01:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I would wait until morning.. It can be fixed.




I waited untill morning. It's the same from when I told you. HOW do I fix it :frown:?


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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4705412 - 09/24/05 01:45 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Did you defat properly? (Warm naptha, 3 extractions, well-drained?)

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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4705516 - 09/24/05 02:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yes my naptha was warm and yes I did three which isnt aneed but I did it to further improve my yield. What I heard is I didnt add enough lye should I add more?


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4705579 - 09/24/05 02:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Alright since moto or whatever never replied with help i'll just do this myself. Since meulsions havent depeleted and no clear layer has shown, and I only have the black layer of liquid and th etwolayers beaneath that im just going to suck off the clear liquid ontop of the emulsions (bubbles) wish me luck..  :rolleyes:


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: DMT Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4705950 - 09/24/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Try adding some salt; in a tek on erowid they suggest that if the emusions are not separating... Also, you just need to give it enough time.

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