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DMT VISUALS
    #27288549 - 05/01/21 12:42 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hi everyone!

Just signed up to ask a question.

When I smoke DMT I get really cringe/tacky visuals. Almost like a corny showground fair or outdated style of imagery. Why is this? The things I’m seeing make me go like “urrrgh really, that’s what I’m being shown?” Like if 90’s punk rock black and white checkers fashion is not what you like but you find yourself in a store that’s specific for that fashion style you just want to leave. Why is that? I smoke it in the hopes of seeing or experiencing really cool or profound things or even just chilling to enjoy the ride but I end up opening my eyes and looking at things in my surroundings because what I’m being shown with my eyes closed is not my style at all. It sounds superficial but the thought of why it happens the way it does perplexes me. The images or shapes etc are really just not my style. Any insight into this dilemma I am having?


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27288574 - 05/01/21 01:31 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

try pressure phosphenes:
http://optica.machorro.net/Optica/SciAm/Photophenes/1981-05-body.html

if you do it right it can amp the visuals up a lot. You don't have to open your eyes either, but I would anyway. Psychs amp up phosphenes. Pressure phosphenes amp up visuals. The longer and harder you hold the greater the visuals. It could actually be overwhelming doing this, and it was for me when I first did it, but I do it every time now.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker] * 1
    #27288575 - 05/01/21 01:33 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

The things your subconscious is showing you isn't the style of your conscious mind? Lol.

Try mixing harmalas or other MAOIs. You will go much deeper and your visions will play out more like stories than random flashes of apparently meaningless stuff.

Or up your dose. Hit 50mg solid and do the whole OBE thing. Guaranteed to make you question your sense of style.  :wink:


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: userx]
    #27288576 - 05/01/21 01:35 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

The issue isn’t lack of visuals, my visuals are very vivid and intense, I just don’t like any of them. They’re cheap and tacky visuals. Not what I am interested in seeing. It’s like it can see what I don’t like and chooses to show me that. They aren’t bad trips, it’s just awkward because the visuals I am seeing are really lame and not in my taste at all.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Northerner]
    #27288578 - 05/01/21 01:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yes that’s exactly what I mean. The visuals I am seeing are not in the interest of my conscious mind. I guess upping the dose would almost definitely and hopefully help. I just was after an answer as to why when I smoke the amount of DMT I do it’s showing me really lame, tacky, tasteless visuals?


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27288583 - 05/01/21 01:50 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It depends on the source and the overall vibes of how the DMT was extracted. The DMT I smoked showed me visuals that were so beautiful, everything was explained and that information changed reality forever even though only I saw it. What that means is I should be getting a ton of pussy everyday, yet, that plan has, apparently, yet to be implemented because they don't believe me. The message hasn't been spread enough yet.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Blabble40]
    #27288585 - 05/01/21 01:57 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'd recommend ayahuasca. Smoking dmt can be so brief and after many times can feel repetitive. The last time I smoked and saw some visuals it was something I'd seen a dozen times before so I smiled and was like that's nice but kindof a waste of my time. Ayahuasca I feel there is a lot more to explore though. The last Aya trip I had was like a 6 hour dream. All of my thoughts were being visualized in full scenes and scenarios that were all linked and evolving in a progressive story.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27288589 - 05/01/21 02:08 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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It depends on the source and the overall vibes of how the DMT was extracted.



Superstition, it is a chemical, not a magical substance.

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Yes that’s exactly what I mean. The visuals I am seeing are not in the interest of my conscious mind. I guess upping the dose would almost definitely and hopefully help. I just was after an answer as to why when I smoke the amount of DMT I do it’s showing me really lame, tacky, tasteless visuals?



You are missing more than half the experience if you aren't mixing it with harmalas.
Make some changa to this ratio... 1g DMT, 1g leaf, 0.6g harmalas. Put all the ingredients in a little ethanol and stir it over and over. Dry it properly and then smoke 100mg in a bong in one long slow hit. Hold it in until you can hold no longer.
This ratio and technique is super popular among a lot of experienced DMT users. All my people do this, it's what I do too.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27288654 - 05/01/21 04:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Hi everyone!

Just signed up to ask a question.

When I smoke DMT I get really cringe/tacky visuals. Almost like a corny showground fair or outdated style of imagery. Why is this? The things I’m seeing make me go like “urrrgh really, that’s what I’m being shown?” Like if 90’s punk rock black and white checkers fashion is not what you like but you find yourself in a store that’s specific for that fashion style you just want to leave. Why is that? I smoke it in the hopes of seeing or experiencing really cool or profound things or even just chilling to enjoy the ride but I end up opening my eyes and looking at things in my surroundings because what I’m being shown with my eyes closed is not my style at all. It sounds superficial but the thought of why it happens the way it does perplexes me. The images or shapes etc are really just not my style. Any insight into this dilemma I am having?





A brilliant example of you resisting what the DMT is telling you.

Do you know what visuals I mostly had in my first years of MXE?

SAND.

Stupid, moist. sand.

I persevered and escaped what turned out to be a learning cave and into the deeper realms.

Maybe invest more effort into your relationship with DMT.



If DMT is showing you something and you're like "d00d I;m liek, so not dealing with this." it is successfully triggering something in you, an ISSUE, triggered by the DMT equivalent of plaid and corduroy.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27288696 - 05/01/21 05:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

your style today is delusion.
the images you see in dreams and dmt are your personal internal archetypes, unaffected by your current style or intentions.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27288827 - 05/01/21 08:07 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

they are so dope
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they are much more other worldly than mushrooms and dmt
it is like jewels
it is like you are in a different more paradise world
what is around you becomes covered in a other worldly jewel gift/treasure


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27289162 - 05/01/21 12:43 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

perhaps you just don't like tryptamine style visuals?  I find that hard to believe with DMT, but for instance, i just don't really care for mushroom visuals.  Not saying they aren't visuals, they just aren't as interesting for me.

But LSD, holy shit - i LOVE LSD visuals.  I've watched the world go full cartoon 2D land, I've watched my friends faces change into other people or characters in complete perfect real vision like the best CGI possible.  Elves, pirates, eastern indian men.. all sorts of stuff.  Not only that, but I've seen Indian gods too.. the most beautiful sacred geometry.  The walls have words and cool psychedelic lettering, beatles yellow submarines, phish fish, etc. 

Even looking at the mirror is insane, I see true hallucinations. 

I'm not the biggest DMT fan, but I think it just hasn't called to me yet.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27289195 - 05/01/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

it's good for combining
smoked rue would probably make it very awesome
or extract
oral makes it more fine and advanced and refined
I like lsa and salvia
one of the best combos I've found


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27289197 - 05/01/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I like being ok for the earth and meaning something to it


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27289204 - 05/01/21 01:16 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

dmt is the most awe inspiring psychedelic
I remember being like WOOOOOW
I have never freaked out on a nother psychedelic like being amazed so so extremely
the others are good enhancers they do the trick and they don't leave you disappointed and they transform your time to closer to a paradise world and it may be there already with other entities


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27289251 - 05/01/21 02:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I mean salvia has had some of the coolest visuals I have ever seen in my life, I actually prefer salvia visuals to DMT visuals.  But there's nothing to it other then that, and I can't stand every other part about it.

Regardless, DMT has never blown me away visually.. but I've also never broken through.  I've seen some beautiful things, and some crazy fractals, but I've never broken through which might be the key to me getting more into DMT and having a better understanding of it.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27289542 - 05/01/21 07:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I mean salvia has had some of the coolest visuals I have ever seen in my life, I actually prefer salvia visuals to DMT visuals.  But there's nothing to it other then that, and I can't stand every other part about it.

Regardless, DMT has never blown me away visually.. but I've also never broken through.  I've seen some beautiful things, and some crazy fractals, but I've never broken through which might be the key to me getting more into DMT and having a better understanding of it.



Hehe what are you waiting for? I see some people say they prefer sub-breakthroughs or are working their way up to a breakthrough. There's something that happens when you pass that threshold... it's a whole magnitude above itself. Comparing low-dose dmt to breakthrough dmt visuals is like comparing weed to lsd. That's why threads like this are so provoking because OP clearly hasn't gone all the way yet :laugh: It's exciting to see someone approaching their first breakthrough. The utter disbelief and amazement is such a treat and can't be shared through words or any other way than the experience itself, which makes it that much more special.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27289645 - 05/01/21 09:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Words can hardly describe the things I have seen on DMT. Beyond what I thought capable of my imagination.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Icon]
    #27289667 - 05/01/21 09:42 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I mean salvia has had some of the coolest visuals I have ever seen in my life, I actually prefer salvia visuals to DMT visuals.  But there's nothing to it other then that, and I can't stand every other part about it.

Regardless, DMT has never blown me away visually.. but I've also never broken through.  I've seen some beautiful things, and some crazy fractals, but I've never broken through which might be the key to me getting more into DMT and having a better understanding of it.



Hehe what are you waiting for? I see some people say they prefer sub-breakthroughs or are working their way up to a breakthrough. There's something that happens when you pass that threshold... it's a whole magnitude above itself. Comparing low-dose dmt to breakthrough dmt visuals is like comparing weed to lsd. That's why threads like this are so provoking because OP clearly hasn't gone all the way yet :laugh: It's exciting to see someone approaching their first breakthrough. The utter disbelief and amazement is such a treat and can't be shared through words or any other way than the experience itself, which makes it that much more special.




Interesting.. I guess Ill just have to go there sometime when it's right.  I think a lot of people tend to force it with DMT, which I'd rather not do.  When the time comes for me to experience a breakthrough, it will happen, and I'm sure it will be beautiful - one day, soon enough.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Mattraymondwalker]
    #27289720 - 05/01/21 10:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

If you don't like what you're seeing, see something else. That's what I do.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27290634 - 05/02/21 03:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Interesting.. I guess Ill just have to go there sometime when it's right.  I think a lot of people tend to force it with DMT, which I'd rather not do.  When the time comes for me to experience a breakthrough, it will happen, and I'm sure it will be beautiful - one day, soon enough.



Yea, maybe. But if you don't force yourself a little bit it may never happen too. My point is there's nothing to be afraid of so any time is the right time to make it the full dive. No rush ofc, but 'they' are waiting for you. :smile:


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Icon] * 1
    #27290643 - 05/02/21 03:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It just so happens (by complete accident) that I vaporized 20mg of DMT today for the first time in approximately 2 years.  Same batch that has been sitting in my safe for that long and probably several years longer.

It was fucking fantastic.  Massive fine scale undulating, spinning, whirling morphing kaleidoscopic magnificence. When it was all over, I put the vial on my dresser, folded my hands and gave a deep genuine prayer of thanks.

OP...I have NO IDEA what your issue is.  Perhaps try either a larger dose, a better set and setting, or position - sitting comfortably or lying down are my two favorites. I would also add NO ALCOHOL for ~ 16 hours before hand.  And try to face a fairly bright light source, like a window.  Transilluminating the eyelids will make the visuals way more colorful and vivid.  You ARE closing your eyes, right???


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Nature Boy]
    #27295522 - 05/05/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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It was fucking fantastic.  Massive fine scale undulating, spinning, whirling morphing kaleidoscopic magnificence.




I have seen very similar to this on MDMA about 15 years ago.  I can only think that it is some kind of nonphysical realm of beauty that I tapped into, because I was pretty far gone at the time.

I love reading these things, because I've never seen people talk about this really, and it had a deep effect on me seeing these things that I will never forget.  I just wish I could remember more of what I saw, because I was fading in and out of awareness.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Nature Boy]
    #27296313 - 05/05/21 10:55 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hey NB! Ona side note, got a fave tek for cactus/Mescaline extraction? Link it or PM me, thanks!


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27296583 - 05/06/21 06:06 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Howdy, TR.  Glad to hear from you.  Hope all is well with you and yours in your slice of heaven!

What do you want as an end product, liquid/pulp or tar or mescaline HCL?

You could start here:  https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=topics&f=91

and go here, too:  https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1103798#post1103798

One final resource:  https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_chemistry2.shtml


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Nature Boy]
    #27296758 - 05/06/21 08:50 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I got the stuff for the Mescaline HcL extraction 69ron tek, just wondering if a different or better one is in your menu. I've never done any other STB tek for MHRB, only yours, no need to really, lol.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27297063 - 05/06/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I got the stuff for the Mescaline HcL extraction 69ron tek, just wondering if a different or better one is in your menu. I've never done any other STB tek for MHRB, only yours, no need to really, lol.



Let us know how it goes in another thread or something, I'm curious to get some peer results from the 69ron tek. It's the only hcl tek I've used and I had amazing results the first times I did it years ago. I've tried on two separate occasions since then with different source cacti and gotten absolutely nothing both times. I've never regressed in success so much, can't explain what could've gone wrong. Hopefully it all goes well for you though because mescaline hcl is the bee's knees.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27297399 - 05/06/21 06:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I still have a packet of mescaline HCL in my safe.  Probably only 250mg or so left.  It was pretty active, although I remember retching on a BIG dose so bad I thought I'd tear my esophagus.  And yes, that's possible to do. Saw it happen first hand in a fellow on chemotherapy.


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Re: DMT VISUALS [Re: Nature Boy]
    #27297411 - 05/06/21 06:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I got rid of my last chunk of mescaline HCL, stuff doesn't agree with me hey. The vasoconstriction gets so bad I think I'm gonna die.


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