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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Hurricane Katrina and race
    #4619810 - 09/04/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Whenever something like this happens and black people suffer, inevitably the topic of race is going to come up. We have seen everything from Kanye West (a black rapper) saying that George Bush doesn't care about black people to black people looting in the streets.

What are your opinions on the whole topic of race and how it relates to this tragedy?


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4619851 - 09/04/05 06:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Hurricane Katrina hates black people.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4619863 - 09/04/05 06:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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What are your opinions on the whole topic of race and how it relates to this tragedy?




Do you mean the blacks looting?

I think it's ignorant to pretend certain groups of people don't have predominant traits. Every individual needs to be judged according to his own actions but it is no surprise to me that a huge area of low income blacks devolved into a lawless cesspool. I don't believe blacks are genetically predisposed to violence, rather I think it is cultural.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: cb9fl]
    #4619871 - 09/04/05 06:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

K for Katrina
K for Klan
Hardly a coincidence


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: cb9fl]
    #4619889 - 09/04/05 06:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I wouln't say it is "cultural" as such, probably more social in this case. Don't forget there must be causes for black people to be more predisposed to such actions (it can't be their genes or something like than...), if of course one dares make the generalization that black people are more violent than white people.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: cb9fl]
    #4619892 - 09/04/05 06:58 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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cb9fl said:
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What are your opinions on the whole topic of race and how it relates to this tragedy?




Do you mean the blacks looting?




No, I am not talking about just that. I am talking about all of the race related things that have been on the news. What do you think of the local, state, and federal government's reactions and was it related to race for example? What do you think of all of the race related stuff in this whole situation?


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4619929 - 09/04/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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snoopaloop53 said:
K for Katrina
K for Klan
Hardly a coincidence



:rofl2:


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4620045 - 09/04/05 07:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm guessing the delay in rescuing was a result of massive discombobulation rather than racism. I mean where does one start rescuing a whole city?


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: RiverMan]
    #4620055 - 09/04/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

"there must be causes for black people to be more predisposed to such action",

hmmm lets see, well a few hundred years ago the settlers in the USA used black people as slaves. It wasn't until only recently that black people started to be treated like human beings (well barely like humans). How do you expect these people to so easily integrate into a society which kept them as slaves and non-humans? And you expect it to happen quick. I'd say Black people have done an amazing job (look at how the natives have put up with white oppression).

Racism is fucking stupid, plain and simple. The issue has never been about race, its a class issue. It always has, just because the majority of black people are in the lower class because of their past, dosen't mean they are less deserving of aid and help.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4620059 - 09/04/05 07:58 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

They are where they are because of the choices they/their parents have made. Anything is possible if you really want it, and I think alot of the people there are just looking for handouts/welfare (I chose to have kids when I was 15 and not finish school, now its the governments responsibility to take care of me).

Also with the shooting at the helicopters. Why does this not come as a shock to me? Are they just too busy being awsome with their gangs...too hardcore for help? Oh but wait...I forgot, we're fucked without help. Now lets complain about how theyre not helping enough while we shoot at them/roit/loot/go ape shit/kill/rape randomly until we decide to stop, then accept help....then complain some more about how its not enough help.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #4620071 - 09/04/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

And no, this is not about black people. Its about the people who live down there, and most of them just so happen to be black.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #4620083 - 09/04/05 08:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Also with the shooting at the helicopters. Why does this not come as a shock to me? Are they just too busy being awsome with their gangs...too hardcore for help?




Turn on your T.V., they just shot a rescue helicopter down. :confused:


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4620121 - 09/04/05 08:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Ive got a great idea....lets spend millions more attempting to help them.

I guarantee thats exactly what bush isnt thinking....its what politics is forcing him to do.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #4620157 - 09/04/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

ahem: *billions


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #4620214 - 09/04/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

To hell with the National Guard. This wasn't some earthquake that just struck out of the blue and caught everyone unprepared. The people who were rich enough to drive themselves out of harms way had a 48 hour head start on the storm and got the hell out in plenty of time. Most of those who remained didn't do so of their own free will, they got left behind and had to fend for themselves. Nobody was willing to fly, bus, truck or sail them out beforehand, but handing them a band-aid once they're neck-deep in filthy water is oh-so-fucking-noble.

No surprise that the majority of unfortunates are black either. All that water has disolved the surface layer. What is being shown on the news right now is what America really looks like without her makeup and fancy attire, and the bitch is no less ugly now than she was 200 years ago.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: Unagipie]
    #4620232 - 09/04/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The people who were rich enough to drive themselves out of harms way




Yes, you have to be "rich" to afford a car and a tank or two of gasoline.. Last time I checked all you need for that is a job.

Even the poor should have stuck their thumbs out, they'd have been given rides by your "rich".


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4620243 - 09/04/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah right. You know half those millionaires driving their Mercedes or their Porches up north wouldn't want "nigger" on their upholstery.

It is a fucking travesty that every damn bus withing 50 miles wasn't mobilized to ship out those without vehicles. We could have pretty much had that entire city cleared out.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4620245 - 09/04/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The people who were rich enough to drive themselves out of harms way




Yes, you have to be "rich" to afford a car and a tank or two of gasoline.. Last time I checked all you need for that is a job.

Even the poor should have stuck their thumbs out, they'd have been given rides by your "rich".




Yes, they're poor, so what. The government should have shuttled them out in buses


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: Unagipie]
    #4620290 - 09/04/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Kanye West is ignorant or just uneducated if he believes George Bush cares more about poor whites anymore than he does poor blacks.


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Re: Hurricane Katrina and race [Re: bukkake]
    #4620296 - 09/04/05 09:03 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I just watched that about ten minutes ago. I think Kanye West needs to do a bit more listening and a lot less talking. I'm sure he just sold like 10,000 more records just by giving that tirade, though.


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