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Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder
    #4607840 - 09/01/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The day Katrina happened Bush was selling some medicare issue on vacation. It seems like he is trying to ignore the hurricane. The national guard is deployed overseas and cant help and it is bushs fault. He cant hide from his mistakes forever.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: 1stimer]
    #4607855 - 09/01/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You mean President Bush was in office back in 1910 when this levee/pump system was installed and over the next 95 years caused the city to sink 9 feet? Wow! That is one long serving President!


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: 1stimer]
    #4607860 - 09/01/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

1stimer said:
He cant hide from his mistakes forever.



He won't have to. He only has to hide from them for the next 3 years.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Silversoul]
    #4607874 - 09/01/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What did you want him to do? Maybe go cover the story like the weather channel and other news outlets? Or maybe he should have gone to the gulf coast and held up a giant umbrella so it wouldn't get rained on and flood.

If he was "selling some medicare issue on vacation" then doesn't that mean he's working and not on vacation? Kinda shows that the president is never really on vacation.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4608150 - 09/01/05 02:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Katrina would not have happened if Al gore or John Kerry were President.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608244 - 09/01/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

In the New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004) Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish stated the following:
Quote:

It appears that the money has been moved in the president?s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that?s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can?t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.




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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608276 - 09/01/05 03:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

do you have a link? or is this all you want to mention in the article.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608339 - 09/01/05 03:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Prosgeopax said:
In the New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004) Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish stated the following:
Quote:

It appears that the money has been moved in the president?s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that?s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can?t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.









And like everything else in this sorry day and age, we will emerge from this catastrophe not trying to figure out how to prevent the next one, but instead trying to gain political advantage by pinning blame whether it belongs there or not - just like the 9/11 Commisssion (expect Governor Blanco to be placed on the Commission that looks into failures leading up to Katrina).


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608345 - 09/01/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608358 - 09/01/05 03:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

thanks i already read it on Michael Moore's website.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608390 - 09/01/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Could you please provide a link then for everybody else, as I never visit his site and I don't think most people can access the story on the link I gave.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608412 - 09/01/05 03:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)



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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608419 - 09/01/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

now i feel like taking a shower.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Edited by lonestar2004 (09/01/05 04:18 PM)


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608439 - 09/01/05 03:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
And like everything else in this sorry day and age, we will emerge from this catastrophe not trying to figure out how to prevent the next one,



Actually the potential for such a disaster in New Orleans has been known about for many, many years. The city has been below sea level for quite some time and humans have known about hurricanes and their accompanying storm surges for quite some time. Such an event WAS predicted and it was known how to limit the damage for many, many years. The majority of The Netherlands is below sea level and the area is subject to flooding - the technology is tried and proven.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608445 - 09/01/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I like the picture of Bush with the guitar.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608456 - 09/01/05 03:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

so now you are comparing the Netherlands situation to New Orleans?


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608535 - 09/01/05 03:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The Dutch have a long history of protecting their people below sea level from the ravages of nature. They have learned their lessons the hard way.
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In February 1953 the Netherlands faced disaster when the dikes protecting the southwest of the country were breached by the joint onslaught of a hurricane-force northwesterly wind and exceptionally high spring tides. The flood came in the night without warning, a fateful combination of freak high tides and gale-force winds that killed 1,835 people. Almost 200,000 hectares of land was swamped, 3,000 homes and 300 farms destroyed, and 47,000 heads of cattle drowned. It was The Netherlands' worst disaster for 300 years.
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New Orleans is below sea level and is now flooded. As I said, the danger to New Orleans has been known about for some time, it was not a question of if a major hurricane with a high storm surge was going to hit it, but when and if steps were to be taken beforehand to lessen the possibility and extent of damage.


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You can accept, reject, or examine and test any new idea that comes to you. The wise man chooses the third way.
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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608556 - 09/01/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

In my opinion, places like NO are not even worth flood-proofing. The huge amount of money and effort to do this is not even worth it.

People just need to learn not to live on the coast where hurricanes hit yearly. I know not everyone would be able to just pack up and move somewhere else, but there comes a time where you have to take responsibility for where you choose to live.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608559 - 09/01/05 03:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I was watching a cool documentary on the dutch and their
dyke system.

it's cool because the internal travel and shipping is largely
done via canals and ships.

pretty interesting stuff, from an engineering perspective.


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Re: Katrina is Bush's Biggest Blunder [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4608862 - 09/01/05 04:58 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Well at least Bush waited until the city and surrounding aresa were underwater before attempting to coordinate any sort of relief effort whatsoever. The admin had about a three-day head start to get the wheels in motion as the predicitons were made public days in advance, but nothing was done.  :thumbdown:

Is that what you call good leadership?


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