Ok, I?m going to explain this the best I can by using artificial intelligence and computers.

Let us look at the most common computer system:
Binary: Of or relating to a system of numeration having 2 as its base.

This system allows a computer to process through basically on and off switches, so everything that a computer sees is true or false, unless programmed otherwise.

Trinary: Consisting of three parts or proceeding by threes

This system allows a system to much the same thing as a binary except there is a new player in the game, the ability to use ?maybe? or leave it as ?2? if you will, or unknown, this allows a computers or system to continue to process unfinished code until that code can be proven or figured out through patterns discovered later on. This system is not popular; in fact no one even really cares much about it, because you can simulate this with a program on a binary system. The argument about this processing is that, it has no purpose, and merely slows down a computer for nothing. I feel there is a link between spirituality and the Trinary system, and that is the complexity of each. Although the Trinary system is slower and less ?efficient? by human standards, it can figure out problems that no true binary system can.



Disclaimer: everything in this post is to be viewed from a Trinary perspective, this means that words may be symbolic and not to be taken literal. The symbolism in the English language can be comparable to the variables in math equations which allow others to continue to process without stopping at everything that does not make sense. If you can understand that symbolism is a form of variables in the English language then you are thinking Trinary, instead of binary, whereas there is only what is and what is not, and no maybes?. Be a system with maybes.

I have come to the conclusion that the universe is in fact a Trinary based system. If you look at the atom, you have the protons, neutrons, and electrons; these are the building blocks of life. The Neutron allows an atom to change through various laws into almost anything. So basically a neutron (which is a space for either or) is within matter (positive charge), which is surrounded by non-matter (negative) which allows matter to be confined, kind of like a mini-universe if you will.




I believe (and yes this may offend some people) that the spirit is within the Neutron, or the ability to change (remember that all that we are made of is atoms, even our mind). I would guess that the only way to explain something so advanced back 2000 years ago would be with symbolism and religion, such as "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit", or even yin and yang, while the whole process of yin and yang is the actual spirit itself.

Now with the idea that everything that makes up the universe is energy in three parts (or two maybe, and one unexplained), there arises new questions in my mind. One is this, if we are made entirely of electricity, then is it possible that we are merely simulations within an advanced Trinary computer system (consisting of three parts, -1=negative, 0(-1 or 1), and 1(positive) , (remember that words are only words and could have more meaning). This brings to mind religion, and makes me wonder if there is a connection between the idea that "god" or "our creator" created the universe as it is in 7 days, could this god have been some sort of superior advanced programmer?

So now if we step back and see the big picture that I have in mind, Imagine the universe being our creator?s "computer" RAM, where he has installed a "universe", (maybe there?s a hard drive for backup too :P) now think of earth as an dynamic ever changing operating system, and think of humans as dynamic interactive applications, all driven by these neutrons, or the ability to change an atom. Now these neutrons exist within a person?s brain cells too, let us not forget, and therefore our thought process becomes much more complex, and our brain finds itself making connections that would not normally be made. I believe this is where our spirituality and complexity is derived from.

Now I will stop here to absorb some feedback.

Also I would like to add this, which I found while searching for Trinary information:

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Research into the existence of Binary companion?s stars uncovered some unusual findings, that such binary systems are as common for younger stellar bodies as for older ones. However, though it has been theorized that our sun has a companion [which orbit each other during a period of 30 million years], there is no real evidence to support it.

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In research conducted in the closing decade of the 20th century, observations were made of the surrounding G2v [or dwarf class] stars within 72 light years of the Sol system. The results showed that rather than being the exception binary systems were the norm. But that trinary and dual binary [quadruple] systems are considerably rarer than binary systems.

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The protons and neutrons are not one particle; a proton is actually three quarks, two up and one down, held together by the strong nuclear force, which brings in another particle, the gluon. Neutrons are three quarks also, basically the same as a proton except it has two down quarks and one up instead of two up and one down.

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So there isn't three "building blocks of life" (not really, the atom is the building blocks of mostly all matter, life or non-life; only a tiny tiny percentage is actually life), but rather you could say at least quite a few more common ones. The number three isn't really relevant in the atom, because it excludes the quarks, the gluons, etc.

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You say the spirit is within the neutron, but what area? I believe it's in the down quarks, which makes it double as spiritual as the proton .

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But I'm open-minded, so I'll hear you out; what evidence do you have for your claims? Did you just make up that the spirit is in the neutron as you were writing it, or do you have a logical explanation behind it?

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So basicly there is 7 particles to a neutron, 4 from protons, and 3 from neutrons and then there is electrons, which is negitive energy which is more of a void? or would this void count as something? forgive me if I sound stupid and miss informed.

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I now understand that it is more complex then three basics. But I do not believe mankind has the essentials to simmulate these more detailed building blocks on a computer system, so I shal research the atom more intensely but also zoom out a bit and focus on the more general version of the atom. This is all very new to me, but where my mind has gone has lead me to explore this option before I can move on. I still believe that a binary system is not complex enough for this day and age, it could not truely process the complexity of the world around us as well as a trinary system would.

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Well one connection is that humans are trying to re-create a human mind on a computer, they have figured out that they do need this variable system and have created Fuzzy Logic. But I believe that if this "being" expands and evolves, it will, much like humans strive to discover as much as it can about itself, and will come to the realization that it is based on the binary system, once it figures this out, it may create a simulation of what it would be like if it were completely binary, binary being more effective, it will logicaly see that binary makes it stronger or better suited for this world. I Believe that in a sense, these worlds will clash, and the most effective will come out on top, because lets face it trinary is not as fast as binary, or if you will, knowledge is more effective then spirituality. That is the best I can explain it. Feel free to ask any questions to enhance communication.

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If computers are intelligent, I believe they'd be too intelligent to waste time on clashes often caused by human arrogance, as I doubt these computers will be human replicas. Chances are they'll just be intelligent, evolving computers.

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There is nothing to make a "trinary" system any better than a binary system, and a whole lot to make it worse.

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Nothing fundamentally separates one numbering system from another, other than the base being used, so there is nothing to make one inherently "better" than another at creating AI.

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You are right, infact Binary would be many times easier to create AI on, being as all our technology is based on this system. But it is the binary thought process that scares me, not the system itself. Fuzzy logic is merely a simulator for a trinary system. For example here is a picture that shows the differance in complexity. Each circle represents a question. (/ = maybe , X = no and Check mark is yes). A trinary AI system would be able to leave networks of data unfinished to allow to be completed at a later time, when there is more data to process.



Im am just worried that a self aware AI would realize it is running on an binary system and remove its fuzzy logic program, this would result in a dense simple network. I believe that many people are starting to think the same way because they in a sense created their own system of absolute rules in their mind about what is "right" and what is "wrong". Once your belief system (based on science and knowledge) is varily complete, then I believe you begin to become... dead if you will, and life would be the ability to change, like the expansion of your mind. Like for example, I remember when I was a child, I felt very "alive" because the world was all so new to me, I did not know what to expect, I was scared, I was happy, I was sad, I was mad. I felt alive, as I do today. I believe I switched from trinary as a child (yes/no/maybe) to binary as a teenager (based on everything that I know, Im right and your wrong unless you agree with me or can find a close connection) to trinary again (yes/no/maybe), and I feel it has given me life or brain activity again. Although not everyone is stricly binary and trinary, there should be both in a persons thought process, not just one.

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If I remember correctly a company did come up with a type of memory storage chip where the switches all had four possible states...but this technology has gone absolutely nowhere because of the added complexity in determining which of the four states each switch was in. This added circuitry made the memory chips expensive and unreliable. I should also note that this added circuitry had to be designed in binary itself...

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Binary, on the other hand, is exceedingly simple to impliment: all transistors have one of two distinct states so the current either flows or it doesn't. No fancy equipment is needed to determine which state the transistor is in (unlike with other approaches).

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Sounds like you used computer or AI analogies to explain how you think the bigger system works and were not looking to actually design AI with this.

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If I could custom order an AI servant like CP30, I would definitely want it to be programmed with an X factor for searching the abstract. To many times in my life have I seen problems arise in business or personal affairs where the logical analysis of others said to cut or deal with the losses and move on.
Without fail, I would pull a winning solution of of my creative imagination and save the day. I wouldn't want to know life without the x factor to draw from.

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Anyway, I laughed reading through your post remembering back about 9 years ago doing the same thing you are. I saved these diagrams I drew with electrons and its function being used to diagram an understanding I had of conscious contraction and expansion/ spiraling vortices that pulled in more energy or expelled it.

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I respect that mind also, regardless of what direction a mind goes in. Although I know my ideas seem childish and far fetched, that is what I am aiming to become. A child is my role model.

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I look at them today and don't understand what I wrote, looks like gibberish, but it made perfect sense to me back then.

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Keep having fun with it. I'm enjoying reading these!

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LuNaTiX said:
Well said, I believe that me and you are of the same kind, except different. , its comforting knowing that im not alone in knowing nothing.

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