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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: faslimy]
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Why does David Icke accuse world leaders of being direct descendants of Charlemagne... when nearly everyone on the planet is likely related to Charlemagne somehow?

Why would he single out only those people he seeks to discredit, claiming that they are somehow furthering his legacy, ignoring the fact that Charlemagne's genetics are smeared all over the damn place?

How is that not misrepresenting the facts to make them look like they fit his theory?

Also, why does David Icke refuse to show his work? Why does he claim to have traced all kinds of people's lineage back thousands of years, without showing how he did it, or where he got his information? Why does he claim to have been able to trace back lineage that other historians haven't been able to find any information on, without showing where he got this information?

If he can't show his work, how are we supposed to believe him?


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: faslimy]
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faslimy said:
the dalai lame is a tantric practitioner, yet he says he is a celibate monk, how can this be when the vajrayana requires the buddha of compassion to have a "magickal consort"

he also is supposed to have renounced all drugs and alcohol....so why does he get wasted and fuck his "magickal consorts" in the potala?

why were the 9th 10th 11th and 12th dalai lama ritually murdered?

why was chairman mao a student of the dalai lamas?

why is vajrayana buddhisim identical to the old tibetan bon po cults?

why is it buddhst teachings are handed down via an in-breed lineage the same as our royal elitests?

why is the shamballah myth the same as the nazi theory of creation?

why did russian soldiers find dead tibetan monks in nazi germany in 1945?

why was heinrich harrah, (an SS officer) close and personal friends with the current dalai lama, and why did the dalai lama himself lie about this fact, and co-operate with an illuminati owned movie company to fashion a story that would appear to have no relavence to the truth as quoted by harrah himself?

how is it that the dalai lama and all the rimpoches and lamas are able to amass such great wealth, seemingly from nowhere?

why do they drink menstrul blood from a skull cup?

why is it the yogi's and wanderers of tibet who are at the top of their hierachy?

why are there warring factions between buddhisim?

why did the dalai lama accept weapons from the british crown to fight civil wars?

why do the tantrickers practice holy/spiritual warfare with magickal weapons?

why do they treat women like absolute shit, yet worship the goddess aspect via reverse symbolism and tantra.

why do they claim that the dietys are not real, yet use them for their own ends profusely.

why is the dalai lama a reincarnation of "the buddha of compassion" and also "Yama" the lord of death...who holds and turns the wheel of suffering (samsara) and ALSO a female diety, or feminine consort?


these are stupid questions, and some of these claims are outright absurd. you need to thouroughly check your research into Vajrayana and im sure your inconsitencies will be answered. i, for one, refuse to give you any further insight into it as what you are attempting is
to slander a very noble path of Buddhism which you obviously do not understand well.


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: Phluck]
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"why does David Icke refuse to show his work? Why does he claim to have traced all kinds of people's lineage back thousands of years, without showing how he did it, or where he got his information?"

Why are you asking this. It is quite apparent from his page that he is a fraud spinning tales for the consumption of internet conspiricy theorists who would spend their hard earned money on these stupid books. Not only that but he is just reworking existing tired conspiricies. Claims this stupid should not even be addressed...only ignored.


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Not only that but he is just reworking existing tired conspiricies.

Whoa, whoa, give the guy a bit of credit!

The stuff about the royal family engaging in weird perverse sex acts, and that all our leaders are really shape shifting reptiles is pretty creative stuff! And HILARIOUS.

Claims this stupid should not even be addressed...only ignored.

Well, you have a point, but if I didn't enjoy addressing completely ridiculous ideas, then there'd be no need to visit S&P.

Personally, I don't think he's a fraud. He probably honestly believes this shit, most of these people do.

It's hard to believe that people can actually take this stuff seriously, but many do.

If you haven't recieved much of an academic education, read many books about history, or spent much time doing any kind of fact checking, a book like David Icke's might seem impressive. He lays out so much bullshit information that it might seem, to someone who isn't familiar with actual history, that he's constructing a decent argument.


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: Phluck]
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A Buddhist monk who has taken vows of celibacy can engage in tantic sex because tantric sex, in Tibetan tradition, is not an indulgent act; it is a spiritual act.

Wine is used to symbolize menstrual blood, it is to represent awakened energy of a feminine aspect.

There has been some violence between Buddhists; it is because they are controlled by their delusions like all other unrealized beings.

The Deities are not real, they are representations. What they represent is real and otherwise inexpressable.

There are some elements of the Bon religion in Tibetan Buddhism because Dharma was beginning to flourish in Tibet at around the same time the Bon religion was beginning to wane.

The rest of these questions are not answerable because they are groundless accusations.


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: faslimy]
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How is it possible to have so many errors, fabrications, confabulations and downright lies all in one post? I believe this holds the record here.

In [formerly] Tibet, Polyandry was the common marital practice - that's multiple husbands with one woman, and I assure you, it was the women who were treated like Dakinis.

Look up the Thule Society or just read Pauwels' & Bergier's The Morning of the Magicians to see the Nazi-Tibet connection (don't forget the Hindu-Buddhist Swastika [svasti=well being]). Spielberg did begin 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' in Nepal, since he also knows about these occult matters (the Ark was substituted for the REAL relic taken by the Nazis - the Spear of Longinus).

Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama, born in 1935 hasn't seen Potala Palace since 1959. He is a celibate monk whose Tantra is of the Inner Fire [gtummo], and is conducted internally, without a partner. All traditions do not require Lamas to be celibate. Lama Govinda was married to Li Gotami for decades.

The Dalai Lama is a manifestation of Chenrezig [Tibetan], AKA Avalokiteswara [Sanskrit] or Kuan Yin [Chinese]. They are all symbols of the Buddha of Compassion but the first two forms are represented as male, Kuan Yin as female. The principle in question is Compassion, and the valences of Chinese symbolism are often opposite from other Eastern of Western symbols. For example, in the West, Dragons are feminine, watery, lunar symbols while Tigers are solar, fiery, masculine, but the opposite exists in Chineses symbology.

Vajrayana exists in many schools which derive from the original four: Nyingmapa, Gelugpa, Sakya and Kargyutpa. There is no one Vajrayana Buddhism, and if Bon po has contributed to the Wrathful Deities (mostly), there is certainly no identity between the old shamanic-demonic Bon po cult and true Buddhist values.

...And that's all I have to say about that. -Forrest Gump


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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: faslimy]
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Holy cow down! Holy cow down!
nothing in this world is sacred

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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: white]
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Nothing is until everything is. :wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: tell me about buddhism (occultism) [Re: white]
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That's just it...it's either Sacred or Profane. "What's in your wallet?"

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